okay I finnaly duped Pale Moon and replaced it with Otter
as this lil browser is so fast in script loadings and leaves such little memory footprint
BUT, i stumbled upon 1 problem, yeah yeah i know its hated, but on facebook
it always gives me "chat disconnected, check your internet connection", which shouldn't happen
so my question is WHY and how to enable it ?
i don't have anything blocking scripts in otter nor nothing under content blocking
i only use "do not track"
and 1 obvious bug,
otter doesn't remember default zoom level
mine is set to 130% in settings, but it always reverts to 100%
I'm using portable version 0.9.04 #49
I have the same issue with Facebook here, also.
@exley, standard procedure, which Qt version and system are you using?
In case of facebook it could help to mask as Chrome (you can set that in Website preferences for their domain).
I see that zoom issue only in case of empty tabs, since they don't have history and zoom is saved per history entry.
In this case 100% was used as fallback, it's fixed now.
hi Emdek & thanks for such quick reply
the problem seems to be random, as changing user agents (and even going back to default)
sometimes enables the chat and sometimes disables it
although funnily Chrome mask totaly breaks facebook :P
as for info:
OS: Win7 SP1 32bit
Otter: 0.9.04 #49
QT: 5.3.2
webkit inside: 538.1
How about masking as Safari?
all except Chrome give same result
@exley, maybe they are caching something?
Try to remove cookies and clear cache after changing User Agent and then reload, maybe it will help.
well removing cookies asks for re-log in, which is the same as page refresh "effect"
and removing cache (manual deletion), makes no difference
in fact, now it constantly disconnects me from chat, which is weird O_o
@exley, I'm out of ideas, I guess that we will have to wait for more mature version of QtWebEngine.
Or one last chance, have you tried weekly #50? QtWebKit from Qt 5.4 has various fixes, there is chance that this issue might be gone.
bug with facebook "live chat" still remains with #50
the zoom one got fixed -> nice !!!
also i noticed 2 more simple bugs, dunno if they existed before
1.if you do right click on image and do "open image", you get new tab opened with blank page
2. if you rclick -> save image, you get dialog for save, but no extension is ever saved, nor
does dialog offer one, nor one is assigned at the end of file name
(tested for both JPG and PNG)
at least this is on portable #50 the issues
@exley, indeed, they appear to be Windows specific, it seems that we cannot rely on QWebPage::OpenImageInNewWindow which was to be expected after another built-in action from QtWebKit (QWebPage::OpenLinkInNewWindow) started to fail there.
Lack of file extension is intriguing, I'll take a look into this issue.
hahah I think I found what is the problem with facebook live chat
it is so stupid... and it is infact webkit engine side problem
since all your friends apear on right side in a list, dunno if its TABLE or DIV object
but
if your page zoom is so high, that that html object "gets out" of your screen, it will show
"chat disconnected" and you lose your list/object from right side
but
if you zoom OUT to such % that object "fits back" into screen, you will be presented back
with friend list and chat will work :P
my screen resolution is 1600x900,
it triggers the bug when zoom is at 127% (and above)
but works with 125% and less
@exley, then it could be a good idea to try solve this issue with some user CSS, as long as they don't use any in-line styles set by scripts etc.
@exley, that missing file extension is result of "feature" (or bug by design) to hide file extensions of known file types...
Setting it to sane value in explorer fixes that issue, nothing can be done about that.
hahah I think I found what is the problem with facebook live chat
it is so stupid... and it is infact webkit engine side problem
since all your friends apear on right side in a list, dunno if its TABLE or DIV object
but
if your page zoom is so high, that that html object "gets out" of your screen, it will show
"chat disconnected" and you lose your list/object from right side
but
if you zoom OUT to such % that object "fits back" into screen, you will be presented back
with friend list and chat will work :P
my screen resolution is 1600x900,
it triggers the bug when zoom is at 127% (and above)
but works with 125% and less
When I zoom out, I can now see all that you say, but chat remains disconnected for me.
did you try to zoom out to small percentage ?
@Emdek
I noticed another bug with Otter, now beta4, for instance if you go to imagebam.com
to upload multi images, when Open dialog appears, user can only select 1 file,
while for instance in old Opera 11 you can do multiple files, I don't think QT uses
win32 default open/save dialog at all, as there is still also issues with saving images
@exley, done in:
https://github.com/Emdek/otter/commit/797eba82981b6602e6c8bfb6b7cf6bc4ad3c971f
ah nice !!!
thank you :D
heres another more of a quirk than bug report, for latest release
when you have bunch of tabs opened the X button gets centered
thus hard to click on tabs... like so:
http://i57.tinypic.com/2ebqvcl.png
also last release again has problem with saving images (dialog)
if you do again rclick on image it offers "save as all files"
user has to manually put in .jpg or whatever ... extension
++ a question, how do we disable mouse commands (rclick drag actions) ?
@exley, that tab bar issue will have to wait for:
https://github.com/Emdek/otter/issues/190
That issue with Save Dialog is kind of "feature" under Windows, to hide known file extensions, AFAIK works fine after disabling it.
We could try harder to workaround it.
For now you can go to about:config and set Browser/GesturesProfilesOrder to empty string.
for #1 its ok just wanted to point it out :P
for #2, its not about hiding extension but if you hit "save", you get just saved "file" with no extension, dunno if this is QT problem itself or qtwebkit but should behave differently
for #3 thanks :D
for #2, its not about hiding extension but if you hit "save", you get just saved "file" with no extension, dunno if this is QT problem itself or qtwebkit but should behave differently
Yes, but it's direct result of that feature. ;-)
Although most likely something wrong on our side too (possibly querying wrong property to get resulting path or something like that).
well, I don't want to seem like a-hole, since i love what youre doing for all of "us" here
but I think its on either qt or dev side-problem
if you do any save via link of no matter what file
or simple rclick save for any image, with ordinary opera (11/12)
in save dialog - the extension will still be not given after file name
but below on "drop down control", it will say "Archive/zip file" or "Image/PNG file" or "Video/MP4 file"
and thus it is reckognised and saved properly while Otter only provides "All files"
and therefore user always gets non-extensioned file saved
@exley, we could try to do something more here (gets full path with extension):
https://github.com/Emdek/otter/blob/master/src/core/TransfersManager.cpp#L248
This one returns absolute path (returns it without extension if it is known to Windows, with default settings):
https://github.com/Emdek/otter/blob/master/src/core/TransfersManager.cpp#L257
As noted, it works just fine after disabling option to hide known file extensions in Windows Explorer, no idea why it was decided to do the same for save dialog, adding extra entry to filters with extension might solve it but also might not. :-/
I know nothing of programming :D
but by logic, if you can make it "read"/detect extensions (no matter what file type)
then that should work, since obviously this auto detect via windows OS doesn't work
I don't know if is the correct place to complain about my problem.
I have Otter 0.9.04 beta 4
Web browser controlled by the user, not vice-versa.
Web backend: WebKit Backend 538.1.
SSL library version: OpenSSL 1.0.1j-freebsd 15 Oct 2014. I am am FreeBSD 10.1 user.
I use a lot of redbubble.com site and the Otter doesn't open photos correct.
http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa is my site and if I click on the whatever photo it shows on the right side a little of photo and all the other part is a black or the black photo is above. If I want to enlarge it then just for a moment shows and again just black. In this case the Otter is not usable for me but I like the browser. With no one other browser I never had a problem.
Thank you.
@fernandel, could you please prepare some short screencast or series of screenshots showing this issue?
Looks like some kind of rendering issue in QtWebKit.
If Qt 5.4 is already available under FreeBSD then you can try this:
https://github.com/Emdek/otter/issues/615
@fernandel, could you please prepare some short screencast or series of screenshots showing this issue?
Looks like some kind of rendering issue in QtWebKit.
If Qt 5.4 is already available under FreeBSD then you can try this:
https://github.com/Emdek/otter/issues/615
No we don't have 5.4 yet.
I did attached two pictures.
@fernandel, looks like something borked in QtWebKit. :-/
Do you have content blocking enabled? If yes then try to disable it.
Another option is to try to mask as Chrome or Firefox (can be set for this website in Website Preferences).
@fernandel, looks like something borked in QtWebKit. :-/
Do you have content blocking enabled? If yes then try to disable it.
Another option is to try to mask as Chrome or Firefox (can be set for this website in Website Preferences).
In Otter - Tools - Content Blocking I don't have anything checked. I did also rebuilt a qt5-webkit and didn't change anything.
@exley, this weekly may fix your issue.
@fernandel, is there any ETA for Qt 5.4?
Apart QtWebEngine it also has various fixes for QtWebKit.
I must say I'm getting bigger and bigger smile with each new weekly release ! :up: :D
love the Otter ! oh and thank you very much for doing it :D (I'll still report here if I find something wrong - hope you don't mind)
@exley, sure, although official bug tracker is best place for bigger stuff, sometimes it's best to ask on IRC channel first. ;-)
Hi,
I understand this is the thread to report the bugs in.
Win 8 64 Pro, 8 GB RAM, Otter in Polish, first 32 then 64.
Absolutely fantastic thing:
I switched to Bookmarks, and then all the menu disappeared, even no possibility to enter it using a mouse (maybe a shortcut?). Reinstalled, same thing, probably settings remember the last "view", as when Otter starts it opens Bookmarks only, no way to switch to Tools, no Menu visible.
[edit] I know where the bug is now.
1. In the Preferences, General, Starting set to "continue the last session" or similar.
2. Open the Bookmarks Manager, no other tab.
3. Menu, Toolbars, turn OFF "show tab bar".
4. You are done. :) Nothing to click on, no menu as it vanished with a tab bar. F4 does not work, also F3.
5. Press F2, enter any website address. Go there. In the right upper corner there is a DuckDuckGo search engine.
6. Scroll down the duck. At the end you have an option "Manage search engines". You are saved. :) As through there you can go to Preferences and change the starting behaviour. Otherwise it will always open Bookmarks view, and you are at the point #4. :)
Also, F4 which I am so used to use in Opera here opens kind of a sidebar but it contains nothing. Just an empty left side bar with a cross to close it.
Also, a tab bar is movable, great, so I moved this immediately to the left, it opened kind of a blueish field, I dropped the tab bar there and, ups! All the tabs were turned 90 degrees, simply vertical position to read. Hard to explain, a screensave would do the job, I will put it later.
However, I must say I admire the work being done, I want to contribute, will find the way. I think Ott is much, much faster than Vivaldi, and already has much more features and options, really closing to my beloved Opera 12.
@Pref, see these tickets:
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/700
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/190
@vas231279, QtWebKit requires codecs to be installed in the system, in case of 32 bit build on 64 bit Windows it requires 32 bit codecs.
We are investigating if bundling them would be feasible.
@Emdek, thank you, maybe it would be helpful for people if such a thread "Bug reports" with the link to Github was at the top of this board.
@Pref, maybe it would help a bit.
Clear Cookies on close has no effect, cookies are still all there after restart, right?
@rincewind, thanks for report, it was a quite old regression, fixed in:
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/commit/75ea4688523ab6d104bef2c2b6a5f7f82a652f65
@Pref, see these tickets:
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/700
Emdek, just FYI, this still happens in weekly 58, x64 Win 8. That is:
1. switch to Manage Bookmarks;
2. turn off Tabbar;
3. turn off Menubar;
4. done, without knowing the shortcut a newbie cannot find the way, and this is rather not the usual way;
5. and also in this view F4 does not work, just informing.
Maybe one of the solutions would be splitting off Menu and Tabbar. And placing this drop-downed Menu like in the new Opera or Vivaldi, in the very upper left corner, always available when Menubar is turned off.
@Pref
The solution is in about:config ShowMenuBar. No sticky button needed. Unconfigurable buttons are evil!
@ersi
In the situation described above, without knowing a shorcut, you have no chance to use about:config. No place to write it. In the Bookmark Manager there is only field Search.
There should be some way to recover, but I would like to add that Opera's insistence on not letting me disable both tab and menubar is one of my gravest annoyances with the program post-10.50.
@ersi
In the situation described above, without knowing a shorcut, you have no chance to use about:config. No place to write it. In the Bookmark Manager there is only field Search.
In the situation described above, thou shalt type
about:config in the address field and press enter. This should work.
If you have disabled the address field too and you forgot the keybind to invoke the secondary address field (F2 by default) then, yes, Houston we have a problem. But this scenario is highly unlikely even for extreme noob-cases.
@Pref, that commit adds context menu which allows to to toggle all toolbars, so it allows to recover (at least when someone knows how to use context menu ;-)).
and also in this view F4 does not work, just informing.
Works fine here, maybe some extra step is required to reproduce that part?
Now a function to whitelist specific cookies (like those from mail and weather locations) would be great
Now a function to whitelist specific cookies (like those from mail and weather locations) would be great
This is supposed to be taken care of by site-specific options. It permits cookies based on domain rather than based on individual cookies, but this was the plan, if I am not mistaken.
this forum is either bugged or I don't have priviledges to send PM's to Emdek...
in any case Emdek if you recieved my PM please confirm it as I don't see report under "sent messages"
@rincewind, @ersi, it might be doable already, although proper support for this feature will require turning Browser/EnableCookies into something like was done for Network/ThirdPartyCookiesPolicy.
Then global value could be set to ignore and enabled separately for each website using Website Preferences (or manually, in override.ini).
See:
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/463
@exley, yep, it's odd that it doesn't list sent messages.
@exley, yep, it's odd that it doesn't list sent messages.
It does if you remember to specifically checkmark it before sending. It is not saved by default, and there's no sticky option.
It does if you remember to specifically checkmark it before sending. It is not saved by default, and there's no sticky option.
It's there in settings.
@Pref, that commit adds context menu which allows to to toggle all toolbars, so it allows to recover (at least when someone knows how to use context menu ;-)).
and also in this view F4 does not work, just informing.
Works fine here, maybe some extra step is required to reproduce that part?
Emdek, ad 1 - yup! Works now fine, sorry, I did not notice. However, RMB with context menu offering turning on Menubar, Tabbar works only on this tiny grey space between Search Field and Bookmarks (I am referring to Bookmarks Manager only), and on that big grey field at the bottom.
Ad 2, F4 - just have noticed, works fine in Bookmarks Manager (when Tabbar and Menubar is off) only for the first time. The next switches do nothing. I have to restart Otter, then again, F4 in Bookmarks Manager works fine only once.
And I do not know if it is OK, but in Sidebar opened there is nothing, empty, just a grey space with a cross to close it.
Also, once you are here :) I have a huge bug (or something) which would be unreasonable to report officially because I do not have any precise data.
Just steps:
1. open LinkedIn profile;
2. click PYMK, People You May Know at the right upper menu.
3. Otter dies, freezes completely, Win 8 reports lack of memory, closes Otter. I even cannot open an error console to provide you with the report.
One clue: opening LinkedIn gives some JS errors in the console, then I click PYMK, and here we are at the point #3.
It does if you remember to specifically checkmark it before sending. It is not saved by default, and there's no sticky option.
It's there in settings.
Yep, found it :)
1. Go to https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?action=profile;area=pmprefs
2. Checkmark "Save a copy of each personal message in my sent items by default."
Ad 2, F4 - just have noticed, works fine in Bookmarks Manager (when Tabbar and Menubar is off) only for the first time. The next switches do nothing. I have to restart Otter, then again, F4 in Bookmarks Manager works fine only once.
And I do not know if it is OK, but in Sidebar opened there is nothing, empty, just a grey space with a cross to close it.
Try about:config CurrentPanel. Enter and save there in turn
bookmarks,
transfers, and
history if it makes any difference.
Naturally I am hoping to get the buttons back. And to have a drop-down list to access the panels. The drop-down list should be placeable anywhere as a menu, like in Opera.
@Pref, F4 might be some kind of focus issue (this would explain why it happens only sometimes).
That crash looks interesting, most likely something to be reported upstream, as long as it is reproducible.
Emdek, that crash is reproducible anytime at least on my PC :) , and this happens only on LinkedIn so far. I do not wander too much through Internet, focusing on work rather.
Also LinkedIn was the reason I left Opera 12, as it was really slow on that portal. If it helps.
@Pref, does it require being logged in?
I'll try to reproduce it under Linux and Windows 7.
Emdek, yes, logged in.
Always crashing when I visit duckduckgo. Please solve this.
@denes, please post some details, are you using custom User Agent or something like that?
@denes, please post some details, are you using custom User Agent or something like that?
Okay, sorry, I forgot this. That was the problem.
I edited the override.ini file, deleted, the user agent line and problem solved.
Thank you for your suggestion!
But I don't understand why not working with firefox or chrome user agent? It is not important just a question.
Emdek, I have just noticed that the latest experimental version, 59, works visibly slower than 58.
@denes, I've started debugging that issue, but so far without useful results...
@Pref, are you using 64 bit build?
You could try to ask bajasoft on IRC if there were any changes in build process, maybe it was built with debug symbols (executable should be bigger in this case)?
Emdek, it just not right. Otter is not compatible with duckduckgo. Or duckduckgo with Otter. After when I click on a search result, doesn't redirects me, shows just a blank page (with default setting). Choosing another user agent is a must. But then crashes. Earlier didn't appeared that problem - worked flawlessly with an user agent which was obligatory. Maybe the ddg team changed the scripts. What is the solution?
@Pref, are you using 64 bit build?
You could try to ask bajasoft on IRC if there were any changes in build process, maybe it was built with debug symbols (executable should be bigger in this case)?
Emdek, yes, 64. I will try to ask.
@denes, no idea, works just fine here.
Crash with custom UA when doing search is known to occur under Windows.
Note that Windows XP is no longer first tier platform for Qt, it might be a good idea to upgrade or move to different OS if possible.
@denes, no idea, works just fine here.
Crash with custom UA when doing search is known to occur under Windows.
Note that Windows XP is no longer first tier platform for Qt, it might be a good idea to upgrade or move to different OS if possible.
The problem disappeared spontaneously, whatthehell. But yesterday... notmatter.
I wait for Win10. Will be free - as in beer. Cheers :cheers:
If I'm not wrong 7z format of Otter x64 supposed to be portable, isn't it? But Otter creates folder named Otter in /Appdata/local directory in which cache and otter subfolders are created and otter subfolder saves the configuration, history, keyboard shortcuts, toolbar options and adblock files. Is it intentional? or a bug?
BTW I've extracted Otter in a folder on (E:) drive where app launcher and profile is saved.
@fernandel, is there any ETA for Qt 5.4?
Apart QtWebEngine it also has various fixes for QtWebKit.
As I wrote before we don't have any ETA for Qt 5.4 yet. I did update again new qtwebkit but my problem is here still.
I don't know if is any FreeBSD user on this forum but in case that is here, could you check redbubble.com/people/lumiwa for example and "click" on any picture, please.
Thank you.
If I'm not wrong 7z format of Otter x64 supposed to be portable, isn't it? But Otter creates folder named Otter in /Appdata/local directory in which cache and otter subfolders are created and otter subfolder saves the configuration, history, keyboard shortcuts, toolbar options and adblock files. Is it intentional? or a bug?
BTW I've extracted Otter in a folder on (E:) drive where app launcher and profile is saved.
Yes, it's not portable. But I know the solution for that, I shared here (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=357.msg35705#msg35705).
Packed in .7z doesn't mean it's portable. It means that it's packed in smallest possible size to download it faster if you have slow internet connection. Or download in zip if you don't have 7zip installed. Both have the same content.
@anikul, yes, it should, it is packed using default settings, using 7-Zip.
So, settings directory is created on the same drive where is binary instead of user directory?
That shouldn't happen.
That shouldn't happen.
That's what I thought :). Otter default settings including adblock lists, cache etc. saved in C:/.../.../Appdata/Local and Otter directory is present where it was extracted on (E:) drive. :(
@anikul
So what's the problem? Did you try my advice?
@denes Emdek seems to agree with me. No, I didn't try it out yet.
Window size after restart is only restored when "Startup behavior: Continue previous session" ist set, the other options result in a tiny window in the middle of the screen, just like described in github issue #691".
Window size after restart is only restored when "Startup behavior: Continue previous session" ist set, the other options result in a tiny window in the middle of the screen, just like described in github issue #691".
This sounds the same as issue 607(which was closed because) issue 597 was reported first. Been like that for a while at least in windows. :cheers:
one still wonders when will flash plugin for windows os be fixed :P
@exley, this one?
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-44401
Window size after restart is only restored when "Startup behavior: Continue previous session" ist set, the other options result in a tiny window in the middle of the screen, just like described in github issue #691".
This sounds the same as issue 607(which was closed because) issue 597 was reported first. Been like that for a while at least in windows. :cheers:
On my otter beta 4 I have in Startup - Show empty page and when I start Otter it open in full size (full display) and cannot remember my last size but zoom works.
And I have the problem with showing reddbuble pictures still :doh:
yeah, I'm hoping the fix for issue 691 will be the answer to these other two issues.(597 & 607) I'll have to wait til tuesday to find out. :cheers:
@exley, this one?
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-44401
no :(
any flash plugin that, at least I activate (movie clip), starts to play
but can't use any of embedded controls
pause, scene/duration bar, sound toggle, screen size toggle...
nothing can be "used" as Otter still registers it as "just clicked on plugin" and it only pauses
the clip, also on some sites, the plugin won't even activate at all (and yes they are flash too)
@fernandel, you should switch to weeklies, they are based on the same branch and are usually stable enough, for sure they have more fixes and improvements. ;-)
@exley, could you please give a link for such video clip which has issues?
Are you using 32 bit build on 32 bit Windows?
Emdek, any youtube video, any flash embeded video on shitty facebook or any other site
yes 32bit version on 32bit windows
@exley, works fine for me (Windows 7 32 bit), which version of flash player are you using?
13.0.0.182 (its still on extended support) :P
@exley, I'm using 16.0.
I've created small testing binary (http://otter-browser.org/tmp/test.zip), download it, unpack and place in the same folder as otter-browser.exe.
You will need to input full URL (including http://) and press Enter.
Please check if the same issue can be reproduced.
well I must play ignorance on this one, as I don't know how to "apply" this file
as it is just "file", no extension, yet when I added .exe to it it launches some console
that cannot be inputed nothing into, so i removed it, extracted back ordinary "test file"
ran Otter and inputed a youtube clip address and it still has same symptoms
no control within flash plugin is clickable/controlable, all Otter does is consider
a click as click onto plugin thus pausing the video
@Pref, F4 might be some kind of focus issue (this would explain why it happens only sometimes).
That crash looks interesting, most likely something to be reported upstream, as long as it is reproducible.
Hi Emdek,
F4 now works fine, v. 61 Win 8 x64.
LinkedIn - still same sh. :) But now there is an improvement: the system manages to inform that it lacks memory (8GB), and needs to close Otter.
Also, if we are at the bugs, v. 61 is drastically slow on anything I checked, however on certain news portals it slower, on the other ones much more. And when I enter the website again loading is faster (of course). Like I was waiting 20 seconds to load wp.pl. FF works fine BTW on these websites.
@fernandel, you should switch to weeklies, they are based on the same branch and are usually stable enough, for sure they have more fixes and improvements. ;-)
I did build and install the last weekly one and I have the same problems:
redbubble.com/people/lumiwa
and the browser all the time start full size.
Emdek :)
seems that Otter has problems with "Mega" service/hosting
every time download reaches 100%, application crashes:
(win7 32bit)
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: otter-browser.exe
Application Version: 0.9.0.5
Application Timestamp: 04089338
Fault Module Name: libstdc++-6.dll
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000
Exception Code: 40000015
Exception Offset: 0001f25d
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1050
Additional Information 1: a02e
Additional Information 2: a02e900c4b4156c302b1b7e031f0e92b
Additional Information 3: 922e
Additional Information 4: 922ed150223e93900d9f8c057ee0d60d
@exley, that archive should contain
test.exe, it should be unpacked to the same directory as
otter-browser.exe.
@Pref, maybe it's related to this one:
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-44523
Apparently there is some new memory leak in QtWebKit, at least under Windows. :-/
@fernandel, which window manager are you using?
seems that Otter has problems with "Mega" service/hosting
Any chance that it is also some kind of memory leak?
@fernandel, which window manager are you using?
I use KDE 4.14.3...Firefox, Xombrero, Opera and I did try Midori don't have a problem. I will install Fluxbox and try again.
I am back :)
I did try fluxbox and lumina and result is the same.
@fernandel, are you using custom or private session?
ok Emdek, results are back :P
for MEGA, it might be some sort of issue but internally,
example:
Otter: a 190 MB file for download, ate 360 MB RAM at 100% CPU usage, crashed
Pale Moon: same file, ate over 450 MB RAM at 5% CPU usage, doesn't crash, downloads ok
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as for test file, i renamed it to .exe, ran youtube video, same story
any click on plugin control just acts as click on plugin, thus pausing video
still unusable
@fernandel, are you using custom or private session?
I don't know. I don't have any option to choose private or custom. I think it is custom because I change some settings but nothing more for sure what I have in Firefox for example or xombrero. In blocking I have "Easy list" but it doesn't works if I choose something or no.
I just noticed that on my system (Debian 64 bit) Google Earth won't start as long as Otter is running. As soon as Otter is closed Google Earth can be started normally and then Otter can be started as well. I didn't find anything about this in syslog.
I still use Beta 4 as there are no newer deb-packages available :worried:
Maybe someone could check whether this is still an issue with newer versions.
mine works
Google Earth 7.1.2.2041 // using direct x
latest otter, 32bit
@exley, then that Flash plugin issue is an upstream bug, any chance to test it using new version?
Is it possible to reproduce that MEGA issue using test.exe?
@fernandel, it seems that you are using default session, then it appears to be some kind of issue with restoring window state and geometry.
@py-thon, is there any debug output or backtrace from Google Earth?
Maybe it's related to this issue?
http://code.google.com/p/earth-issues/issues/detail?id=1477
@emdek
There was no corresponding crashlog. But I found ~/.googleearth/instance-running-lock which caja claimed to be a defect link/shortcut/symlink (no idea what its correct name in english is). After deleting this google earth started normally with otter already running and produced a new obviously working ~/.googleearth/instance-running-lock .
emdek, i'll send you PM about something
also there is small annoying bug, dunno if its reported anywhere
if you copy a link address from another browser or some text editor ... don't matter
when you open Otter for 1st time, and do rclick on addr-bar the option "paste & go" is enabled
but if you open new tab, or do rclick over existing address in already opened tab
the option is disabled, you can only "paste"
BUT
if you close Otter, and open it again (empty), the "paste & go" option is again Enabled
@py-thon, while I have no idea why there was clash in the first place then Google Earth definitely should be able to cleanup own lock file when it gets damaged...
@exley, confirmed and fixed (https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/commit/2679141d0d691ecf115cf25dfd1ed08ac5689424).
@fernandel, it seems that you are using default session, then it appears to be some kind of issue with restoring window state and geometry.
I rebuilt Otter with QT 5.4.1 and ALL problems exsist. Nothing different.
For the last three versions I'm facing NSL (Never Stops Loading) problem on my google home page whenever I search from google home page or address bar (same search engine). Clicking on Cancel button does not have any effect and Cancel button does not turn into Refresh button.
I am finding for the last few builds (currently 62) that the reload button on some pages is greyed out and I have to use F5 to refresh the page.
you should remember/write down those pages links
could be internal JS problem that kills it
I can't save this image, Otter is always crashing when I try to save:
http://photographicsocietyofindia.com/wp-content/gallery/nature-award-wining-pictures/8-fiap-hm-nagy-lajos-romania-bee-eaters-with-grasshoppers.jpg
I can't save this image, Otter is always crashing when I try to save:
It works for me, so I'm guessing it's a Windows-only issue. Other images work fine? However, it did cause me to notice that the Save/Ctrl+S dialog is disabled even when you're viewing an image. In that case it should really be equivalent to right click → save image.
I can't save this image, Otter is always crashing when I try to save:
It's a long standing issue:
https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=211.125
BTW Developers, Otter preference, settings, history are still saved on drive other than the drive where profile is created when extracted, unlike Opera Blink. I reported this issue at least 3 versions before...
doesn't crash here
I hadn't lied, here's is the evidence:
http://i.imgur.com/vEwnD8v.jpg
Did anybody try this on XP?
No problem with Opera.
I rebuilt Otter with QT 5.4.1 and ALL problems exsist. Nothing different.
At least I've found reason for that black element over images, apparently
QtWebKit doesn't like
IMG inside of
#discourage-theft.
@anikul, could you please post URL?
It's most likely related to this change:
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/commit/65ef1a84ca6912146bbb3819d4ec837db230c10e
I could experiment with determining if page is still loading by checking if there are any active network requests for specified tab instead of depending only on signals emitted by QtWebKit, as they seem to be unreliable...
@djgl, yeah, I've seen this few times.
There were some changes that could affect it, let me know if it will happen again with next weekly.
@denes, see:
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/701
I reported this issue at least 3 versions before...
Please post direct link to that post, that topic become quite large already...
@Emdek please find the url address below and do check subsequent posts:
https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=595.msg35624#msg35624
@djgl, yeah, I've seen this few times.
There were some changes that could affect it, let me know if it will happen again with next weekly.
Thanks - will keep a look out for it in next, but it is not a consistent error.
some cypher crap security risks
to me they don't mean crap, but some people might bitch about it
if you go to: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html
at the bottom there are these that are tagged as "weak"
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
TLS_ECDHE_ECDSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
TLS_ECDH_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
TLS_ECDH_ECDSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
TLS_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA
TLS_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_MD5
and something called "OCSP stapling" also is tagged red/weak
another bug with Save dialog arises:
unless there is specific path to image given, Otter can't detect proper image/extension
example here:
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/bloodyroar/images/a/a2/Yugoblason.png/revision/latest?cb=20130619120914 (http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/bloodyroar/images/a/a2/Yugoblason.png/revision/latest?cb=20130619120914)
while old opera 11 detects and saves properly
Otter simply sees it as generic file with no extension
some cypher crap security risks
Those are openssl bugs, I am sure.
https://www.openssl.org/news/vulnerabilities.html
@djgl, yeah, I've seen this few times.
There were some changes that could affect it, let me know if it will happen again with next weekly.
Thanks - will keep a look out for it in next, but it is not a consistent error.
Re the reload icon greying out - so far in #63 it seems to be behaving itself.
Thanks for curing the problem
heres another annoyance on windows version
Otter for some reason ignores HOSTS file, thus all ads are being spawned
while other browsers, at least non QT based, do use it
@anikul, thanks.
Cannot reproduce, at least not using 32 bit Windows.
@exley, by default we are using set recommended by Qt, you can disable selected ciphers in Preferences -> Advanced -> Security.
In case of that hosts file it would be best if there would be some test case, so it could be tested and reported upstream.
Hi,
i found that i cant play videos from vimeo.
example:
https://vimeo.com/31105420
looks like this:
http://abload.de/img/vimeod9kjr.png
and stops.
Regards
keen
I stand corrected with hosts file, ignore my post above, sorry
it works with it ok
Hi,
i found that i cant play videos from vimeo.
example:
https://vimeo.com/31105420
looks like this:
http://abload.de/img/vimeod9kjr.png
and stops.
Regards
keen
What's your setting of Browser/EnablePlugins in about:config ?
OnDemand (I just imported opera bookmarks. Rest is pretty much default.)
Youtube is working though. It has the same "Playsymbol" but you can click it. Not possible with vimeo.
@keen, vimeo uses more complex player than others, the best way is to simply Enable plugins globally or just for vimeo.com in Website Preferences.
I rebuilt Otter with QT 5.4.1 and ALL problems exsist. Nothing different.
At least I've found reason for that black element over images, apparently QtWebKit doesn't like IMG inside of #discourage-theft.
Thank you.
@keen, vimeo uses more complex player than others, the best way is to simply Enable plugins globally or just for vimeo.com in Website Preferences.
Thank you. It's working like that. Nice.
I didn't want to open an issue on github because this may not be an issue or bug at all, but can it be the version string wasn't adjusted for weekly 64 on Win32?
the "about" box says #63. I tried the .7z from two different mirrors to make sure it wasn't the user's (my) fault.
@mihau, oops, somehow I've managed to not update main binary, so basically it was previous weekly with updated translations...
Thanks for report, I'm uploading updated packages right now (it affects only 32 bit packages).
@Emdek hmm despite -v2 in the archive name, the exe still says #63
(unfortunately I don't know from which mirror it was downloaded, if that matters)
(unfortunately I don't know from which mirror it was downloaded, if that matters)
If you downloaded with Otter, you can see in the download manager the exact download URL. In Seamonkey it's also possible by right-clicking and selecting Copy Download Link.
I have the git version these days...
@mihau, which package?
I've checked 7z one and it's #64.
EDIT
@emdek nevermind my updater script is just stumbling over the -v2 suffix, sorry for having wasted your time
dunno if this is bug or not
but take example of zoom feature and new tab
Tab 1: zoom 125%, if i click on new link with mouse wheel to open in new Tab
Tab 2 will carry on the zoom value of Tab 1, and won't revert to original value
can be very annoying :P (sorry)
@exley, it's a feature, maybe it should be optional.
Otter doesn't remember "Maximum size of item" on tab bar, navigation bar after restart. Always returns to "No limit".
Any solution?
Anyway, the progress is great, I'd like to thank for the added features.
Keep it up!
@denes, there was a bug in code for saving definitions, it was writing that value using incorrect key (overwriting icon size).
yikes ! otter fails acid 3 test :D
99/100 :P
yikes ! otter fails acid 3 test :D
99/100 :P
Which specific Otter version and OS are you using?
I'm seeing 100/100 with 0.9.05 beta 5, 32bit (Win 7); however there is a title "You should not see this at all" in the rendering, hence it probably can't be considered a clean success...
vbr
@exley, @vbr, such issues should be reported upstream, although I doubt that they will get fixed, it's marked as deprecated after all. :-/
Hi.
Otter-browser-beta5 and otter-browser-weekly65 have something problems on Japanese Web Games.
http://www.dmm.com/netgame/social/-/gadgets/=/app_id=177037/
This HTML 5 game works with otter-browser-weekly64 , but beta5 and weekly65 does not...
http://www.dmm.com/netgame/social/-/gadgets/=/app_id=445736/
This Flash Game overrided Other tab, it is very strange bug.
If it shows "you can't access from foreign country", plz use proxy if you can.
Thx.
@blackwingcat, plugins (not just flash) is an known upstream issue, happening only under Windows.
AFAIK someone is working on it, but I'm not sure if it will be part of next Qt release...
What exactly stopped working in the first game?
@blackwingcat, plugins (not just flash) is an known upstream issue, happening only under Windows.
AFAIK someone is working on it, but I'm not sure if it will be part of next Qt release...
What exactly stopped working in the first game?
Thx I overlooked the known issue.
The first game stop with message "It is not supported browser." (with same UserAgent)
It looks like to fail to load the HTML5 component.
I will analyze and report the detail soon.
@blackwingcat, try changing User Agent to Chrome, maybe this will help.
dunno if this is bug or not
but take example of zoom feature and new tab
Tab 1: zoom 125%, if i click on new link with mouse wheel to open in new Tab
Tab 2 will carry on the zoom value of Tab 1, and won't revert to original value
This is the way Opera handles zoom levels, so I would consider it a feature, not a bug.
But there's something else I noticed with regard to zoom levels:
0 and 9 only work when using the number keys above the letters, using them on the numberpad-part of the keyboard they don't work (no matter whether num lock is on or off).
Edit: Problem not restricted to zoom levels, also happens when using 1 or 2 to switch between tabs.
@py-thon, that keypad issue comes from Qt, keypad keys are treated separately, AFAIK they have a modifier set on them which makes them separate key sequences...
I guess that it should be possible to workaround that "feature" somehow.
Try playing something on http://www.hulkshare.com/
Nothing happens.
I can't import bookmarks (otter-browser-git_0.9.99~git20150406+r6~ubuntu14.10.1_amd64.deb on Debian Jessie). In the menu import/export has a small arrow to the right but unlike sessions above there is no submenu.
@denes, there was a bug in code for saving definitions, it was writing that value using incorrect key (overwriting icon size).
Thank you for fixing this in recent release (#66)! :up:
@rincewind, I don't see any warnings in console...
Such issues should be reported upstream.
@py-thon, fixed.
@py-thon, fixed.
Sorry, but I can't confirm this with respect to otter-browser-git_0.9.99~git20150408+r6~ubuntu14.10.1_amd64.deb .
In addition this deb-file has lost most of the German translation that 20150406 still had.
Sometimes there is also a time lag in response to clicking on the menus. A menu will only open when the cursor has been over the item for at least a second or when clicking a second time. This did not happen with 20150406.
Edit: Timestamp in this forum is not CEST, so maybe git20150408 was produced a little before the fixing-entry.
Unable to save any webpage. Ctrl+S grayed out on File Menu. (32-bit Win7 with both otter-browser-win32-weekly63 and otter-browser-win32-weekly66)
[Not sure whether to post in this bugs thread or start a new thread, but I don't seem to be finding any other related forum posts or forum topics (other than possibly Frenzie's post earlier in this thread (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=595.msg36793#msg36793)), so I am guessing this is simply a Windows build bug (?)]
@py-thon, fixed.
Ok. The submenu now appears in git20150409-version and bookmarks can be imported from Opera. Thanks for that.
There are two bugs in the import though. Folders starting with a lower case letter are not imported at all. After changing the folder name in Opera to capital letter it gets imported (and it can be changed to lower case in Otter afterwards without disappearing). The other bug concerns the functionality to allow or disallow duplicate bookmarks when imported. No matter whether the box is ticked or not, the import results in duplication.
It would be nice if there was a possibility to sort the imported bookmarks folders alphabetically (and keep the possibility to override that manually which Opera did not allow).
@gdveggie, it's not available yet.
@py-thon, can't confirm that import issue, could you please post names of these folders?
There were internal changes in source strings, I'll post new translation file soon.
@gdveggie, it's not available yet.
Only on Windows builds, or on any platform? Can you point me to somewhere that discusses the issues?
@py-thon, can't confirm that import issue, could you please post names of these folders?
There were internal changes in source strings, I'll post new translation file soon.
It's strange, but after having changed the name of the folder to capital letter in Opera before and changing it back to lower case now I can't repeat that bug anymore. Maybe there was something wrong in Opera's bookmarks.adr which didn't disturb Opera but caused problems when importing to Otter. Probably it had nothing to do with lower case, it was just a coincidence and I just had to make any change to that folder to make it work.
The duplication issue still exists.
Don't worry about the translation; I just thought I'd mention it as it might have been lost by mistake.
@gdveggie, every platform.
The main issue is that QtWebKit exposes only snapshot of DOM, which always differs slightly from original HTML...
@py-thon, OK, I'll check that duplication issue.
I know many frown upon mentioning stupid facebook ... I do too
but its not always in bad purpose used
Otter doesn't update private messaging system at all
dunno if this is qtwebkit issue or app itself
user simply has to either refresh the page or click on any other link to get msg's updated
flash and javascript are out of frame when I change the size of the page. Ex.: youtube - on videos i can't seek on timeline, just pause, start with one click and fullscreen with doubleclick are the only possibilities.
Such way I can't use this site properly:
http://www.billa.ro/Layouts/dd_bi_single.aspx?folderId=128624&pageId=1140922
I enlarged that page to 120%. That size I usually use, because of my tiny screen.
I can't click on PDF to download it, because on modified size the flash content is out of frame.
Possible solution I suggest:
1. In Website Preferences implement Custom site size preference, different size for each page. So I can use Youtube and flash based sites on 100%, others on 120% or else.
2. Your idea
I tried after updating the flash player; on Win7, but the problem remains the same.
This needs to be fixed.
Some minor bug I noticed:
when closing a webpage (no matter whether closing it with mouse gesture or clicking the tab's X) and this webpage was displayed in the only/the last open tab this tab stays open but is left unusable. It doesn't react to entries in the address field anymore. To continue you have to open a new tab. The old tab can be closed afterwards.
Opera in a similar situation closes the last tab as well which isn't the perfect solution because you have to open a new tab to continue. But it's better than having a non-working tab.
Some minor bug I noticed:
when closing a webpage (no matter whether closing it with mouse gesture or clicking the tab's X) and this webpage was displayed in the only/the last open tab this tab stays open but is left unusable. It doesn't react to entries in the address field anymore. To continue you have to open a new tab. The old tab can be closed afterwards.
Opera in a similar situation closes the last tab as well which isn't the perfect solution because you have to open a new tab to continue. But it's better than having a non-working tab.
Hi, I remember similar problems in some earlier version, but it seems to work ok for me currently. Anyway, you can set the prefered behaviour in this case in the Configuration manager
Preferences: [All settings]
In the TabBar section, there is an item called LastTabClosingAction with the possible values:
openTab, closeWindow, doNothing.
hth,
vbr
@denes, that issue looks like this one:
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-44401
Which should be fixed in next Qt release.
@py-thon, was that current version?
The same or very similar was (introduced and) fixed recently, as noted by vbr.
@py-thon, was that current version?
It was the launchpad-version 20150413. I'll try again with the most recent version. I don't update too frequently as connection to launchpad.net most of the time is not possible.
Edit: I now installed otter-browser-git_0.9.99~git20150416+r6~ubuntu14.10.1_amd64.deb . It has the same behaviour as 20150413 (non-working last tab). Switching the setting according to vbr's post to "doNothing" results in the last tab being closed. As this is the way Opera behaves and "openTab" does not work correctly I'd suggest to make this the standard setting.
@py-thon, fixed.
Opera used to behave like that by default.
I haven't been able to visit the page academia.edu for weeks now. There is always an error message:
"Something went wrong!
Sorry. We're taking a look at the problem right now."
I've deleted all cookies from academia.edu and switched off content blocking, but this didn't help. There is no problem to access the site with rekonq or other browsers. Strange. :sherlock:
@Kirilo
Did you try with a clean profile? e.g.
otter-browser --profile /tmp
Can't use the browser, it always suddenly closes seconds after I open.
When I execute in terminal, it opens and when It suddenly closes it says: Segmentation fault (core image recorded)
Using Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
Memory leak when visiting www.teckentrup.biz
Otter consumed 3,3 GiB according to system monitor and almost froze my system before I was able to kill the process.
Starting Otter again after that it asked how to start and starting with the same page it consumed 3,4 GiB within seconds (~/.cache/Otter only contains around 50 MB and there was almost no internet traffic, so it's not page content itself).
Killing the process again and starting Otter without any page results in the normal RAM-usage of around 70 MB.
I have been using build 68 but having problems when writing in a forum and other inputs. The k/b is not behaving correctly as follows:-
Backspace does not delete the last letter but takes my back a page
/ this backslash brings up the search in page function
There are some others that I forget now. I have reverted to build 67 and all is fine.
Can`t login to facebook.i get half way through my email addy and i get the find task bar popping up when i press the . button ie:-*****@fornow that is as far as it gets,everything was ok in V67 but its broken in 68.any help guys?
@Kirilo
Did you try with a clean profile? e.g.
otter-browser --profile /tmp
In fact this works. Now the problem is to find out what I did in order to make in not work with my normal settings. At least I know where to look for now, thanks!
Could it be that there are mouse gestures that are always active?
I often open or reload tabs by accident and don't know why,
I assume that I have activated a mouse gesture in such a case.
You should know I never use mouse gestures and have not the first idea how they are triggered.
I tried again with today's version otter-browser-git_0.9.99~git20150427+r6~ubuntu14.10.1_amd64.deb to make sure it was not just a coincidence.
The memory leak is still there: from 70 MB to 3,3 GiB in about 10 seconds.
emdek, opening multiple files for upload (imagebam) is again broken
one can only click file by file, and not select multiple at once
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/
Try srolling this page...
Otter in slow motion..
CPU 100%..
wow otter really got more annoying now
not only of issue i wrote above that was actually fixed few builds in past
but now when you go on forums to register or login where it requires to write your e-mail
whenever I need to write .com, the "dot" invokes highlight popup box and I can't write damn "."
same goes for keyboard assign letters/shortcuts
"9" seems to zoom out by default, if i press 9 it will zoom out but won't enter
character in passw box
-
ok after a shitstorm of problems (backspace also causes huge problems)
I'm reverting to #67
I had problems with keyboard shortcuts in the very first Otter I installed. It was so serious that I soon deleted the default keybinds files entirely and built my own keybinds. I have stayed away from the default keybinds ever since.
It's probably an upstream issue that the web engine "eats" letters, i.e. interprets normal characters in forms as keyboard shortcuts, but no matter what stream, this kind of problem should not exist. The browser is simply unusable out of the box.
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/
Try srolling this page...
Otter in slow motion..
CPU 100%..
Confirmed. The problem is greatly alleviated when Otter is unmaximised, but it's still a problem that does not affect other browsers. For example Qutebrowser, which has roughly similar components and dependencies as Otter, treats the page normally.
I can't confirm either problem. My Otter CPU use while scrolling doesn't exceed 16%, which however is a fair bit more than the 10% I get on e.g. this site. Perhaps that simply means my ('09!) CPU is too fast to show the problem? That being said, Firefox goes up to 20% on that page and Opera/Blink goes up to about 17%.
NB I've got 4 CPU cores, so 25% is the max of what an individual core can handle.
on my dual-core cpu that scrolling goes from 30-50%
could be if you use maybe single core cpu
NB I've got 4 CPU cores, so 25% is the max of what an individual core can handle.
That probably depends on the way the system calculates this. My system monitor (MATE) when scrolling https://git.kernel.org/cgit/ shows 104-108 % for Otter, so Otter is not even satisfied with one core (quadcore-CPU). Opera scrolling the same page starts with 20 % but drops to 8 % within a few seconds.
NB I've got 4 CPU cores, so 25% is the max of what an individual core can handle.
I have dualcore. One core went to 100% and there was hardly any other program running than Otter. Then I closed Otter and opened the same address in Qutebrowser. Neither core amounted to much. This is how I determined the problem with Otter was confirmed.
dunno that would require some hard debugging since not all have that issue
I just tried again and same result, goes from 30% - 50% max
and I have old AMD 5050e DC CPU, so not new machine at all
Otter can't always remember the icon of a website in the bookmarks toolbar. Sometimes it shows it, most of time it does not.
Can't use the browser, it always suddenly closes seconds after I open.
When I execute in terminal, it opens and when It suddenly closes it says: Segmentation fault (core image recorded)
Using Xubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
Found the problem. Happens when you download the EasyList in the built-in Ad-Block.
** Update **
Looks like a memory leak on facebook
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/
Try srolling this page...
Otter in slow motion..
CPU 100%..
Yes, here the cpu goes to 50% - 60% and Otter get's really slow when srolling the page.
Otter can't always remember the icon of a website in the bookmarks toolbar. Sometimes it shows it, most of time it does not.
There's a setting "Clear history when application closes". I don't have it selected, but Otter never ever remembers bookmark icons at startup. It only shows the icons (most of them, not always all) when I visit a bookmark.
Otter can't always remember the icon of a website in the bookmarks toolbar. Sometimes it shows it, most of time it does not.
There's a setting "Clear history when application closes". I don't have it selected, but Otter never ever remembers bookmark icons at startup. It only shows the icons (most of them, not always all) when I visit a bookmark.
I don't have that setting selected either. I believe this is a bug, because if you selected to see just the icons and have more than three bookmarks it can be a little hard to identify each one is the one you want to open.
@Rômulo, are you using packaged from launchpad with system wide Qt5?
Ubuntu 14.04 contains extremely outdated QtWebKit (5.1), I would suggest to fetch Qt SDK and compile it against 5.4.
@py-thon, hopefully it is the same issue that was fixed for DuckDuckGo, Qt 5.4.2 should be available soon (it got delayed due to issues with CI etc. :-/).
@djgl, yeah, it got broken under Windows recently, currently I'm looking for proper solution .
@hoova,it is the same issue as above.
@rincewind, yes, mouse gestures are enabled by default, yu can set
Browser/GesturesProfilesOrder to empty string to disable them.
Of course there will be also UI to configure them.
@exley, OK, I'll check that issue with upload.
The latter issue is the same as reported by others.
I don't have that setting selected either. I believe this is a bug, because if you selected to see just the icons and have more than three bookmarks it can be a little hard to identify each one is the one you want to open.
I'm considering storing them as part of bookmarks file, then icons wouldn't be affected by changes in history and wouldn't randomly change if webpage changes favicon (like multiple changes done by Google in the past).
Thanks Emdek, updating QtWebKit to 5.1 fixed the problem with the Ad-Block, but I believe the memory leak on Facebook is still here.
with amount of useless script FB is using there will always be some memory leak
I freaking hate that site
another bug that I noticed existed in 67 and is still in 70
in tools->preferences->web page language->
I add American - English, then hit ADD button, it appears on the list
then OK, then Apply, go back to same settings and its gone
webpages again milk your locale
there is also new bug regarding infamous facebook
when you enter someone's picture, Otter doesn't react when you click on button
for "full screen picture"
also multiple upload of files is still broken
so are youtube(flash) controls)
another bug that I noticed existed in 67 and is still in 70
in tools->preferences->web page language->
I add American - English, then hit ADD button, it appears on the list
then OK, then Apply, go back to same settings and its gone
webpages again milk your locale
Fixed.
also multiple upload of files is still broken
I've checked that and QtWebKit seems to ignore
QWebPage::ChooseMultipleFilesExtension...
At least it works with QtWebEngine.
Most likely I'll make use of Qt 5.5 beta as soon as it will be available, maybe there will be some fixes for other issues too.
I could really love this browser. I am having an issue with the bookmarks bar: Once I've setup a bookmark bar and click on the bookmarks, the bar shrinks down, showing only the the text of the current site. If this is a feature, I don't see the use of it. In fact I've configured the bar to show titles and favicons side-by-side, but the text disappears after clicking. Is there any way I can lock the bar to show text at all times? Or is this a bug? Sorry if you were already aware of this; I did a cursory search on the forum and found nothing.
@Zamgiga, it seems to be the same issue as reported here:
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/791
It seems to me that Otter downloads everything twice. When I open the download window every download appears twice, sometimes even with slightly different times. It is possible to stop one and still have the other (see attachment).
Recently it often happens to me that Otter crashes when I close a tab with mouse gesture (especially the first tab). This did not happen a few weeks ago, but I can't tell when this started.
when selecting a bookmark in a subfolder
status field is going nuts and selection highlighting slows down, is no longer under mouse pointer and reaches the selected bookmark with delay
@py-thon, that download was triggered by clicking on link, from context menu (which action?) or from Transfers Manager?
I can't reproduce that crash, which Qt version are you using? Any chance to get backtrace?
@rincewind, could you please post screenshot showing both statusbar and location of cursor on the list?
You do not believe me. Posting a screenshot is not possible for me. But when I disable the statusbar the bookmarks behave normal. Only resetting it to defaults or making it empty doesn't change anything.
@Emdek
The download was triggered by clicking left on a link. This happens with all my downloads (or at least each time I check with the transfer manager, because I usually don't open that window), independent of website or filetype.
I am using qt-version 5.3.2 from Debian Testing.
It seems to me that Otter downloads everything twice.
Confirm this.
Just updated to build #72 from build #71 and "Open in a New Background Tab" now always loads in a Foreground Tab.
Just updated to build #72 from build #71 and "Open in a New Background Tab" now always loads in a Foreground Tab.
For me it even loads in new foreground window (specifically, when opening from history list). Something's up with that.
Just updated to build #72 from build #71 and "Open in a New Background Tab" now always loads in a Foreground Tab.
For me (build #72 in Linux) it works as expected.
But since a few builds now (can't say since when exactly, after #66) I can't open a downloaded file or its folder from the "downloads" panel or page. I haven't filed a bug report, as usually such glitches disappear after 1-2 builds, but it's for longer time now.
Otter otter-browser-git_0.9.99~git20150520+r6~ubuntu14.10.1_amd64.deb fails in Logjam-Test https://weakdh.org/
Opera 12.16 doesn't.
Otter otter-browser-git_0.9.99~git20150520+r6~ubuntu14.10.1_amd64.deb fails in Logjam-Test https://weakdh.org/
Opera 12.16 doesn't.
Even Opera 11.62 passes it, but newest Seamonkey doesn't. Perhaps a flaw with the test itself?
Flash plugin does not work, right?
Or is this on my computer only?
@py-thon, I can't reproduce that so far (I've tried with Qt 5.3.2 too), maybe there is some extra condition to trigger it.
@rincewind, screenshot could be useful to determine cause of that issue, as so far I was unable to reproduce it.
For flash issue please check if Browser/EnablePlusings is set to enabled or onDemand.
@treego, are you using MDI?
I can reproduce that only when it is enabled (note that currently that setting requires restart to take effect).
@Kirilo, indeed, I'll check what is wrong with that.
Logjam issue should be fixed now:
https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=1119.0
"For flash issue please check if Browser/EnablePlusings is set to enabled or onDemand."
Tested both, does not work in qtwebengine otter
@rincewind, QtWebEngine doesn't support plugins yet, most likely Qt 5.6 will bring support for Pepper plugin.
So I would suggest to switch back to QtWebKit, as 5.6 can't be expected earlier than in December or January...
Weekly build #73, gesture to switch between tabs - right mouse button + scroll:
- Won't work always, sometimes requires Enter key, but sometimes works immediately after release mouse button.
- Tab order in the popup window is different than real tab order: ascending next tabs, but descending previous ones.
- Sometimes creates a new blank tab after the last tab, immediately after release mouse button. Probably just after cold start with session restore.
In Opera, I'm using tab scroll gesture in hidden mode, but didn't find this setting in Otter yet.
Won't work always, sometimes requires Enter key, but sometimes works immediately after release mouse button.
It behaves that way if dialog is under cursor when mouse button is released, I'll check what can be done about that.
Tab order in the popup window is different than real tab order: ascending next tabs, but descending previous ones.
It's intentional, I'm planning to add option to select mode for ordering.
Sometimes creates a new blank tab after the last tab, immediately after release mouse button. Probably just after cold start with session restore.
Maybe gesture to add new tab gets triggered accidentally?
In Opera, I'm using tab scroll gesture in hidden mode, but didn't find this setting in Otter yet.
It's planned too.
Sometimes creates a new blank tab after the last tab, immediately after release mouse button. Probably just after cold start with session restore.
Maybe gesture to add new tab gets triggered accidentally?
More suitable reason is deferred tab, not loaded content yet. When I'm trying switch to it, a blank tab appears instead.
@Freeman, new one or that tab becomes blank?
Is that a HTTPS URL?
@Emdek, a new blank tab. Yes, both of my deferred tabs are https.
well I'm back, with your newest compile
so lets begin :P
1. AGAIN multi file upload does NOT work (imagebam)
2. flash controls are fubar, sometime work, but mostly not, and if you go to youtube page you can't even reload the page or go back to previous (this is very freaky)
3. I LOVE customization of toolbars and others, BUT for instance i gave zoom in and zoom out buttons next search control (button bar), they don't work at all, nothing happens
4. with this large customization the bottom bar is useless, but if you disable it you lose the
loading bar of website and other info
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Foi61.tinypic.com%2F2n4kr6.jpg&hash=600c800f74e26cba58f8be22584f9718" rel="cached" data-hash="600c800f74e26cba58f8be22584f9718" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://oi61.tinypic.com/2n4kr6.jpg)
@exley, could you please check these two issues with test-qtwebkit.exe?
It's a minimum test case, note that it understands only full URLs.
Progress bar gets disabled for you after hiding status bar?
Update
There are also now v2 packages, based on Qt 5.4.2 which was released today, it might help with flash issues.
so, with v2,
- flash controls are now broken totally
- multi file upload still not working
- the status bar removal now FIXES progress bar staying
- custom buttons zoom in/out still don't work
where do I download this test build you mention of ?
@exley, it's bundled with 32 bit packages, but probably not with installer.
bugs 1 and 2 are not present in test version
it works just fine
@exley, are you using zoom?
I've got reports that flash then misbehaves int he past.
ahhh yes, zoom causes problems
on default flash works
but still its a bug :P
,,,
theres another bug
when you remove bottom bar
and then enter any site, you can see STATUS bar appearing at the top for 1 second
(below address and button bars)
@exley, it's an upstream issue, we can only wait for them to fix it...
I can't reproduce the latter issue (both Windows and Linux), could you please try to catch it on screenshot or using screen capture?
here, download the video its small
you will see 2 bugs
upper status bar
and non working buttons
http://www58.zippyshare.com/v/0zY8Sf52/file.html
@exley, ah, that one, it's a known issue that shouldn't be possible, but somehow tends to show up after introduction of start page. ;-)
As for zoom actions, I guess that I'll have to rethink a bit our handling of actions, as it happens because in case of navigation bar (which belongs to tab itself) events are send directly to widget responsible for handling rendering etc., but some actions are handled by their parent widget.
Go To Page dialog (on F2) doesn't respect unchecked "Reuse current tab" setting, as in Opera 12. Is it a bug?
@Freeman, it's intentional, but you can use modifiers there to force different behavior, at least it was supposed to work that way, there seems to be a regression after fixing another issue.
you can use modifiers there to force different behavior
What modifiers do you mean? In the dialog on F2, nor Ctrl or Shift are working.
@Freeman, yeah, these, but as I've mentioned, there is a regression, I'll fix that soon.
@rincewind, which option? Plugins?
@Freeman, modifiers should be fixed now.
Google's search for pictures partially does not work, the camera icon in the search field is missing: http://www.google.com/imghp
I suppose Google changed something because I had used it before with either Opera or Otter; now neither works. With Iceweasel the icon is still there and working.
@py-thon, try different user agent, there is also slight change that it was some issue with content blocking (one fix just went in).
@py-thon, try different user agent
Thanks. Making Google believe that Otter on Linux is Google Chrome on Windows works fine.
Slightly off-topic: Currently I can't log into the forum with Opera anymore. Any changes in the forum's software?
No, nothing. (Also note which browser I'm using. ;))
Must have been one of the mysteries of computer technology :rolleyes:
Yesterday I tried several times both with wand and typing everything on the keyboard and it didn't work either way. Today there is no problem.
ahh Emdek :)
I'm starting to become broken record, but again multi files upload doesn't work
another bug, speed dial constantly reloads thumbnails/previews thus slowing down starting of browser itself
@exley, yeah, that multi upload issue is already known.
It reloads existing thumbnails or fails to generate some of them and then tries again?
it happens only when I open Otter for 1st time, not when i do new tab
(no matter how many times per day i open it, its always when "ran")
it fails to make thumbnails and loads them and does nothing then
@exley, do you have any files in this folder in user directory (it might differ a bit)?
AppData\Local\Otter\otter\thumbnails
just 1 (of 3 on speed dial)
@exley, then it must be the known issue where for some unknown reasons it fails in some cases.
For now you can avoid that by adding files with names taken from bookmarks.xbel, the id attribute of bookmark shown on Start Page.
Just one more question, does it fail to generate them (so thumbnails are shown) or just to save them?
both is problem :)
i have 3 in speed dial
only 1 is generated and saved on HDD
other 2 are "loading" but always white, and those are not saved/created on disk at all
@exley, ah, so this is only issue with generating them, nothing new.
new issues
1. red scrollbar
2. editing default keyboard settings have no impact on browser
3. engine is SLOW in loading web content
4. going with mouse over random web-elements show random errors, like dissapearing of
images or half broken images, or overlaping elements
heres example (my user name is sprayed out, everything else is REAL)
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Foi61.tinypic.com%2Fmtthe0.jpg&hash=0c60b6e829c1e0d256d8e299ecc0a2ae" rel="cached" data-hash="0c60b6e829c1e0d256d8e299ecc0a2ae" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://oi61.tinypic.com/mtthe0.jpg)
seems to me this new layout-engine is totally broken
I'm gonna revert to #78 till this gets fixed
@exley, simply use standard package (without -qtwebengine in name) or change backend back to QtWebKit in about:config.
One minor bug in dev80 or its German translation:
For startup behaviour there are two almost identical possibilites "Startseite anzeigen" and "show Start page" which both means the same. But they don't cause the same. "Startseite anzeigen" leads to a blank page unless you set a start page. "show Start page" leads to the speed dial even if you have set a start page.
Opera's "Mit der Schnellwahl starten" (Start with speed dial) is missing.
One minor bug in dev80 or its German translation:
For startup behaviour there are two almost identical possibilites "Startseite anzeigen" and "show Start page" which both means the same. But they don't cause the same. "Startseite anzeigen" leads to a blank page unless you set a start page. "show Start page" leads to the speed dial even if you have set a start page.
Opera's "Mit der Schnellwahl starten" (Start with speed dial) is missing.
I think that there will be no thing called "speed dial". It will be called "start page". Consequently, the other thing should be called maybe "home page".
@py-thon, apparently translation needs updating.
In English these options are:
Continue session
Begin with home page
Begin with start page
Begin with blank page
As noted by ersi, in our nomenclature Speed Dial is called Start Page.
apparently translation needs updating.
Yes, I have five options instead of four.
As noted by ersi, in our nomenclature Speed Dial is called Start Page.
Ok, I didn't know that and it is somewhat confusing.
So "Begin with home page" makes Otter start with a default web page and "Begin with start page" shows a local page displaying the speed dial? I hope the German translation will stick to the naming used for ages and call them "Startseite" and "Schnellwahl".
So "Begin with home page" makes Otter start with a default web page and "Begin with start page" shows a local page displaying the speed dial?
Yes.
I don't want to be rude or ungrateful
I really wish Otter high hopes and only use it where Opera 11 fails
but for many answers you say "its a known bug, nothing new"
well if its known and nothing new, why not fix it :P ?
I know you fixed for example multi upload in one build
and then again later all were broken ...
kinda looks to me that you use something already broken as
"base" instead latest "fixed"
bit weird to me
@exley, in that build there were no changes that could break it, so it remains a QtWebKit mystery. ;-)
bug weekly report #83
webkit version - none.
qtwebengine version - cannot support qtwebengine. user agent don't show blink.
@kanakomoerer, it's known issue, I'll try to fix it for next weekly.
Otter crashes when I try to download this software: http://defaultprogramseditor.com/#download
.zip extension, if it matters
@denes, it might be this issue:
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/899
@denes, it might be this issue:
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/899
Exactly!
Is that upstream issue?
Is that upstream issue?
No, but it'll be fixed in the next weekly. :)
@kanakomoerer, it appears to be a bug in QtWebEngine, I'll prepare a test case and report it upstream if it will conform that.
First I thought this to be a bug of beta 7, but after downgrading to dev84 the problem is still there, so there seems to be an incompatibility between Otter and network_manager_1.0.6-1 (before 1.0.2-2).
Otter is not able to reach any site, it does not send anything according to MATE's Netmanager Applet. This frequently happened before unless I started Otter immediately after connecting, now it is a constant.
-when selecting the text with the mouse in the location bar it drags the entire link instead of just selecting (don't know if this is a feature tho)
-Google and youtube (player) look outdated for some reason
-cursor disappears somethimes
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kGDH5GExnIc/Ve25P63gHlI/AAAAAAAAESc/EwzOfQtcDN0/w480-h272-no/2015-09-07-1103-04_gif_002.gif)
-Doesn't play webm
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Flh6.googleusercontent.com%2F-9031R49iB4E%2FVe27B9RkHHI%2FAAAAAAAAETg%2FwCe5Lg4xEl8%2Fw965-h543-no%2F2015-09-07-1124-04_gif_001.gif&hash=bbc69da1c9899de7410b6aaad64cd10b" rel="cached" data-hash="bbc69da1c9899de7410b6aaad64cd10b" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9031R49iB4E/Ve27B9RkHHI/AAAAAAAAETg/wCe5Lg4xEl8/w965-h543-no/2015-09-07-1124-04_gif_001.gif)
-Can't copy pictures
From last beta in windows 8
-when selecting the text with the mouse in the location bar it drags the entire link instead of just selecting (don't know if this is a feature tho)
It's been fixed, see #927 (https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/927).
@py-thon, you are using WiFi, right (I can't find previous post with that information)?
There is upstream issue, confirmed with Qt 5.4.
@Animavicion, are you using some system wide codecs pack?
QtWebKit needs system wide codecs, without them YouTube fallbacks to flash player.
Cursor is most likely hidden by flash player.
Which way are you using to copy images?
@Emdek
No, I connect with a USB-3G-stick. Other browsers work fine. Otter gives a constant 0,0 KiB/s (upload as well, so nothing leaves my system) no matter what site I try to reach.
I will make a complete dist-upgrade when MATE 1.10 is complete in testing-repo and Debian's change to gcc5 is completed (hopefully next week). Maybe this will change something.
Edit: Without any changes today I was able to load something with 0.9.07 weekly #84.
I have no idea why it sometimes works and mostly not.
Edit #2: It worked once on 09-09, since then it doesn't.
@Animavicion, are you using some system wide codecs pack?
QtWebKit needs system wide codecs, without them YouTube fallbacks to flash player.
Uh, well apparently the problem is me:
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Flh4.googleusercontent.com%2F-muFUpiwwCsI%2FVfL8M90ZiQI%2FAAAAAAAAEUk%2FgdXFQlabyj4%2Fw1111-h581-no%2F487389479.png&hash=84f7fdd5eaeaa0431ddfa3de5304a0a7" rel="cached" data-hash="84f7fdd5eaeaa0431ddfa3de5304a0a7" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-muFUpiwwCsI/VfL8M90ZiQI/AAAAAAAAEUk/gdXFQlabyj4/w1111-h581-no/487389479.png)
Cursor is most likely hidden by flash player.
nope
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.googleusercontent.com%2F-h5eDUxBzo5k%2FVfMBxNbFABI%2FAAAAAAAAEVg%2FPUaXmOleSMQ%2Fw320-h240-no%2F2015-09-11-1119-07_Segment_0_gif_001.gif&hash=dc058e3dde2d3f0c74e47a4075b3eab2" rel="cached" data-hash="dc058e3dde2d3f0c74e47a4075b3eab2" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h5eDUxBzo5k/VfMBxNbFABI/AAAAAAAAEVg/PUaXmOleSMQ/w320-h240-no/2015-09-11-1119-07_Segment_0_gif_001.gif)
Which way are you using to copy images?
Right click, copy to clipboard, and paste.
After that it just says that I can't paste that in there.
@py-thon, it looks a bit similar to this, but that one was for WiFi:
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-46542
@Animavicion, players usually hide cursor after delay, is that true in your case?
I've checked that action under Windows and it seems to be broken there, I'll try to find workaround or at least I'll report it upstream, it's not the first time when built-in actions from QtWebKit fail under that platform...
When clicking a bigger picture, it shows the zoom out cursor instead of the usual one when dragging the cursor over the scroll bar
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Flh3.googleusercontent.com%2F-cQ8k6p8_Kqo%2FVgPfRp9B50I%2FAAAAAAAAEXs%2Fuyt7zIN69m4%2Fw320-h240-no%2F1%252B%25252801%252529_gif.gif&hash=26142f1c64226180018c8c85f19f2845" rel="cached" data-hash="26142f1c64226180018c8c85f19f2845" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cQ8k6p8_Kqo/VgPfRp9B50I/AAAAAAAAEXs/uyt7zIN69m4/w320-h240-no/1%2B%252801%2529_gif.gif)
@Animavicion, it's minor bug in QtWebkit, we don't change cursor ourselves (except few cases like scrolling activated using middle click).
@ Emdek After a complete dist-upgrade (still somewhat difficult with Stretch's ongoing transition of gcc5 and MATE 1.10 partially in Sid) Otter is working again for the first time in two weeks. I hope it stays that way. Maybe there was some conflict between Otter and an updated package.
Edit: It worked once and now the problem is back. Otter doesn't send or receive anything.
Off-topic but with respect to this page:
Would it be possible to restrict the file size in posts to a sensible size?
It is annoying having to wait minutes to load the page if there are images of 3,68 MB.
Edit: This page has almost 23 MB.
The local attachments have size limits, but for external images that'd be problematic. Besides I don't want to ban e.g. gigantic GIFs outright; it's just that they're really only appropriate in e.g. a select topic.
@py-thon, it's some issue in Qt or some library used by Qt, maybe use of Qt from SDK would help in this case...
Yesterday I updated qt5 to 5.5.1 which has arrived in Testing. No changes. Otter doesn't send or receive anything (otter-browser_0.9.08-dev95-1~vivid~ppa1_amd64.deb).
My other browsers (Opera 12.16, Qupzilla 1.8.6, Iceweasel 38.2.1) work fine.
Following a link to a picture imgur.com (not the homepage, though) like e.g. http://imgur.com/8IttZMp reliably makes Otter freeze.
Does anyone else have this problem? If not, I'll try to provide more detailed information.
Confirmed on my end. Note that it doesn't actually freeze; it just reacts really slowly. I takes at least several seconds for the scroll position to change or for the tab to close. Presumably the slower your CPU, the worse the effect.
In other browsers (e.g. Firefox and Vivaldi) that page also reliably gobbles up 10-15% CPU, so there's definitely something odd going on there. But in Otter it eats up the full 25% (i.e. 100% of one core).
Yes, you're right. My PC is rather old so that the difference between freeze and big lag is quite small.
@py-thon, could you please check it using Qt SDK binaries for qt.io instead of system ones?
@Kirilo, does it happen when viewing that image directly (http://i.imgur.com/8IttZMp.jpg)?
I had only issues when right clicking on it while it was embedded, not when viewed directly.
@Kirilo, does it happen when viewing that image directly (http://i.imgur.com/8IttZMp.jpg)?
I had only issues when right clicking on it while it was embedded, not when viewed directly.
Also for me a direct link works without problems. The start page works, too, as I said.
@Kirilo, can you reproduce that using this?
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/test-qtwebkit
I've tried to check what is going on using callgrind but QtWebKit seems to crash when using it for some reason. :-/
@Kirilo, can you reproduce that using this?
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/test-qtwebkit
I tried to compile, but
make failed:
/usr/bin/uic MainWindow.ui -o ui_MainWindow.h
g++ -c -pipe -march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -g -fvar-tracking-assignments -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_WEBKIT_LIB -DQT_GUI_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/share/qt/mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -I/usr/include/QtCore -I/usr/include/QtGui -I/usr/include/QtWebKit -I/usr/include -I. -I. -o main.o main.cpp
In file included from main.cpp:20:0:
MainWindow.h:24:33: schwerwiegender Fehler [fatal error]: QtWidgets/QMainWindow: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden [file or directory not found]
#include <QtWidgets/QMainWindow>
@Kirilo, it appears that Qt4 got picked up instead of Qt5.
I would suggest using absolute path to qmake from Qt5.
OK, that worked.
With the test kit, imgur makes cpu usage go up to 22% in the beginning, but it drops and the program is usable.
With Otter+imgur, the cpu goes up to 25% leaving Otter unresponsive - not totally frozen, but so slow that I have to close it in order to do anything.
@ Emdek:
Qt SDK is far too big to download and compile. And even if I would I wouldn't know whether the problem still existed because of some problem with Qt as such or because of my making some mistake compiling (so far I never succeeded when trying to compile anything).
But by now I am sure that the problem is located in Qt5. Qupzilla recently changed to Qt5 and now it is unusable (same problem as Otter). When trying to load www.qupzilla.com with Qupzilla I get "Network access is disabled." whereas Opera loads the same page just fine.
@Kirilo, I guess that it is some issue with JS on that specific page (I've heard that this service has some some security hole or something like that that allows to do some nasty stuff using JS, but that might be just a rumor) which somehow gets amplified due to triggering some action handled internally in our code.
@py-thon, I meant binary version, not compiling Qt from sources. ;-)
Sometimes that version behaves more stable that one provided by distribution (as they sometimes use some extra patches or non standard compile time options)...
@Emdek
I am afraid that's not possible. I tried but my connection currently is too unstable and qt.io doesn't support to continue downloads after reestablishing the connection.
I am far from being a programmer but the problem could be based on qt's checking the physical state of the device http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qnetworkaccessmanager.html#networkAccessible-prop (http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qnetworkaccessmanager.html#networkAccessible-prop) and getting the wrong value because it doesn't cooperate with usb-modeswitch (I am using a UMTS-modem).
@py-thon, it could be possible, I guess that it would be worth to try it, it should be enough to add one line here:
https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/blob/master/src/modules/backends/web/qtwebkit/QtWebKitNetworkManager.cpp#L90
setNetworkAccessible(QNetworkAccessManager::Accessible);
And then recompile against Qt version from repository.
i must say after some time of being away on purpose
i hoped that otter will finally "settle down"
yesterday downloading newest build, all i got is even more broken build that was 2 months ago
these are fast observations:
- again multi file select aint working
- mouse buttons completely broken and un-editable in options
- if image filename is too long otter can't save it with proper name but adds DOT "." after certain char lenghth
- back button very broken
- when alot of tabs oppened, the X button wanishes, so unless user knows ctrl+w, you're screwed
@Emdek
Sorry, but apart from adding the line I have no idea what to do. I will just wait for Otter to work maybe some day and meanwhile look for other browsers as Opera gets more and more difficult to use with modern websites.
again multi file select aint working
This appears to be upstream issue in QtWebKit, as it works randomly and in theory we had implemented all required stuff to make it work as intended.
mouse buttons completely broken and un-editable in options
What exactly doesn't work for you?
Note that this is weekly, so it can be unstable and we are just after transitioning to new mouse gestures system (most regressions should be fixes as of #98).
Mouse profile management is new tool and is not finished yet.
if image filename is too long otter can't save it with proper name but adds DOT "." after certain char lenghth
Could you please provide some link where it can be reproduced for testing purposes?
back button very broken
Details, please.
when alot of tabs oppened, the X button wanishes, so unless user knows ctrl+w, you're screwed
This is intended behavior, just like in Opera, when there is not enough space to show it then it is not shown for other tabs, just current one.
You can also use action from File menu, Shift + left mouse button click, middle button click or add custom shortcut or mouse gesture.
@py-thon, after that you need to follow instructions from INSTALL.
I'm also not happy about current situation with QtWebKit being dropped (well, almost, being unmaintained and not supported by usptream, with no binaries anymore, is just like dropping it off) and QtWebEngine being not usable yet (will be almost usable with Qt 5.6 which gets delayed and delayed again), but for now we can only wait for upstream to do their job...
again multi file select aint working
This appears to be upstream issue in QtWebKit, as it works randomly and in theory we had implemented all required stuff to make it work as intended.
well try imagebam it doesn't work
-
mouse works good again in this last fork
-
back button very broken
Details, please.
well on some sites if you follow on same tab more links
pressing back doesn't go more in past than 1 link, or even just returns to current page
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heres another annoyance
otter can't open ftp folders
well on some sites if you follow on same tab more links
pressing back doesn't go more in past than 1 link, or even just returns to current page
So these "some sites", they work in e.g. Firefox?
well try imagebam it doesn't work
Yes, I remember this site.
And it works fine for me under Linux, so it might be yet another Windows specific issue of QtWebKit...
Note that as soon as there will be Qt 5.6 beta I'll update QtWebEngine backend against it and this time it will be almost usable for daily browsing (there is still some missing stuff but at least most of basic features finally made it).
pressing back doesn't go more in past than 1 link, or even just returns to current page
Do you have the same issue with
test-qtwebkit.exe (it's bundled)?
otter can't open ftp folders
Yet another issue that doesn't exists in QtWebEngine. ;-)
After the update of KDE to Plasma 5.5.1, Frameworks 5.17 and KDE 15.12 (but with Qt staying 5.5.1) I have now encountered a very nasty behavior with build #102: Closing or opening a tab crashes Otter...
Here ist the output of gdb, but it is no debug build, so I have to rebuild it first, but maybe it alerady helps:
http://www.cyrilbrosch.net/wb/media/otter-gdb
Edit:
I now know how to reproduce it: Every time the speed dial is shown (either by opening a new empty tab or by closing the last open tab) Otter crashes, other tab-related actions work well.
I also made a new build with debug enabled. Here is what QrCreator told me aboutit:
http://www.cyrilbrosch.net/wb/media/otter-qtcreator
On my other system (same software, other hardware) Otter works just fine.
@Kirilo, from these backtraces it looks like some issue in Qt or maybe style used by KDE5 (well, technically there is no KDE5 but I'll keep it calling the right way).
You can try two options:
1. try to set different style in Preferences / Advanced / Appearance;
2. disable start page for now.
Another possibility might be some settings of KWin, as it seems to crash at QRasterPaintEngine.
I'm not sure how does it look like in KDE5 but you could set Qt graphics system in System Settings (it might be set to raster now, try native), this is how it looks in KDE4:
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Ft.im9.eu%2Fkwin-settings.jpg&hash=9cf81b10f5d2a8e3ac704ec3d482d268" rel="cached" data-hash="9cf81b10f5d2a8e3ac704ec3d482d268" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://t.im9.eu/kwin-settings.jpg) (http://im9.eu/picture/kwin-settings)
@Emdek
Thanks, changing the style from Breeze to Oxygen prevents the crashes. I'll test from time to time whether it remains with upcoming releases.
The Qt setting you mention is absent from KDE5, BTW.
@Kirilo, thanks for testing, I guess that it could be a good idea to ask authors of that theme if that issue will be confirmed on some other system.
It might be something wrong with your driver (which one are you using?) or perhaps something wrong with installed packages for Qt or that style.
Anyway, I wonder what exactly triggers that, then I could try to create standalone test case, if it will be needed.
I am not sure if this is an Otter bug, or somewhere upstream, but it seems that the JS engine used have memory holes... i.e. the longer multiples pages using JS is open, e.g. gmail, facebook, linkedin (this does not occur for normal html pages), the memory usage of Otter just seems to grow and grow until it uses all RAM available (running Debian stable 64 bit, 4GB RAM, with Otter 0.0.08-dev100 installed from .deb package) and the whole X-window system become unusable (I need to kill otter from CLI).
@Chavoux, it's some issue in QtWebKit, which Qt version are you using?
Perhaps it was fixed in newer version.
Faced with these bugs
The site http://www.aliexpress.com/ impossible to select text, right-click.
@ovas, it seems to be some "security feature" on that page or some bug in JS, if you disable it (for example using F12 menu or setting it for that host in Website Preferences) then it works as expected.
@ovas, it seems to be some "security feature" on that page or some bug in JS, if you disable it (for example using F12 menu or setting it for that host in Website Preferences) then it works as expected.
All I tried, but the right mouse button does not select text on http://trade.aliexpress.com
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.megatorrents.kz%2Fgraphic%2Fimages%2F2016%2FFebruary%2F10%2F14FE_56BB63CE.jpg&hash=b38e1c00531003d60a5016c211a4f46e" rel="cached" data-hash="b38e1c00531003d60a5016c211a4f46e" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://img.megatorrents.kz/graphic/images/2016/February/10/14FE_56BB63CE.jpg)
@ovas, if you are depending on Website Preferences then you also need to add entry for that subdomain.
@exley, AFAIR this or similar issue was caused by zoom, their chat malfunctions when zoom value is above 100%.
Also you should update to more recent version, that one is extremely outdated (that second issue was fixed long time ago).
Thank you for this browser. Please keep up the good work. I've been using Otter as my main browser for about 2 years now and have found it to be very good.
However, on the address bar, the stop loading button (a red octagon with a white X that toggles with the green reload button) does not seem to work on long loading site such as
https://weather.com/weather/today/l/62864:4:US
The stop loading button seems to work correctly in weekly Otter 98, but not weekly 99 or higher. Hopefully, this problem can be readily fixed. Note: Windows 7 bin32.
I have many more suggestions, bugs, and comments but (as this post is my first) will refrain for now.
Sincerely, Mathman12
Debian amd64 testing, latest otter git built with qt5.5.1, using qtwebkit
Otter browser defines a torrent file as a "PHP" file (.php) and stores in a window selection program qBittorrent, throws back to Notepad
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fs8.hostingkartinok.com%2Fuploads%2Fimages%2F2016%2F02%2Ffe7044dd143ec85e3cfb9d7f2ee8a1cb.jpg&hash=6c00cd22c760a1626de068691ca25c1f" rel="cached" data-hash="6c00cd22c760a1626de068691ca25c1f" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://s8.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2016/02/fe7044dd143ec85e3cfb9d7f2ee8a1cb.jpg) (http://hostingkartinok.com/show-image.php?id=fe7044dd143ec85e3cfb9d7f2ee8a1cb)
Presumably that is something on the server-side rather than on Otter's side. Is it different in other browsers?
The latest weekly snapshot crashes when viewing a VOD of a streamer on Twitch.tv.
qtwebengine: target blank links do not open and no contextmenu on many websites
1. Otter crashes every time I try to load http://autoexpress.co.uk/car-news
(using otter-browser_0.9.10-dev115-1~wily~ppa1_amd64.deb ).
2. Import of Opera bookmarks difficult on Linux systems as hidden folders cannot be activated. You can't locate the standard path ( ~/.opera/bookmarks.adr ) because Crtl+H doesn't work on Otter's window.
3. Access to settings of content blocking is not possible unless menu bar is visible (not available in the alternative menu).
4. At least with some pages the green reload button is shown (instead of the red X for stop) when the page is still blank and loading. So you can't stop loading and only the tab's small icon will give away that there is still activity in the background.
Concerning the bug last mentioned in reply #282 (Otter can't connect to the internet): solved.
It seems to have been a collision between Qt 5 and the Linux kernel. Problem started with some upgrade to Qt 5.X.Y (it would be too time-consuming to check which version exactly) and disappeared after upgrading to kernel 4.4.
After the switch from build 109 to 116 the crash I had with the Breeze style in KDE is gone!
But now I have Oxygen icons instead of Breeze ones?!
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/ freezes my otter for several minutes
and
jpg images sometimes save as 'file.php', I have to rename them first or later
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/ (http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/) freezes my otter for several minutes
Huh, on this netbook it's the same in Fx, but in Opera it's instantaneous. Perhaps that means QtWebEngine would do better?
Here are some more bugs in it:
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-52159
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-52149
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-52148
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-52147
@mathman12, can you reproduce this issue using test-qtwebkit.exe?
Does it work for you when you use the same action from context menu instead?
@ovas, there might be some issue with extracting file name.
I'm not sure what do you mean, it ignores selected application and uses Notepad instead?
@py-thon, @1. do you have any backtrace for that crash?
@2. Yeah, this is missing detail, we have API that is supposed to suggest default location (which is easiest on Linux and BSD) but is apparently unused there.
@3. This menu is really crowded already, and you can still access it using context menu or add to menu button (it's about time to add editor for menus...) or somewhere else.
@4. Any specific URL where it is easier to reproduce that?
BTW, there is also now a workaround that should help with unstable network interfaces in case of QtWebKit.
@Kirilo, it is upstream bug:
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-49061
The workaround was to by default disable use of system icon theme. :-/
You can re-enable it in about:config but it will bring back this crash...
oh boy oh boy
havent used otter quite some time hoping OLD things get fixed... but it just getting worst...
win7 32bit
again multi file select (test it on imagebam.com) does not work, this is like ancient bug never fixed
-
youtube, another ancient bug never fixed now with added bug, often it shows only 30% lower part of video
everything else is black
full screen is disabled even on "HD" quality O_o
-
also there is nowhere option to choose between using flash and html5 video which is annoying...
-
when page is loading clicking on STOP, doesn't stop loading page at all :(
-
and bug with saving images:
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Foi65.tinypic.com%2F9aqn80.jpg&hash=bea220086ecd4278f1fd4fdf1251292b" rel="cached" data-hash="bea220086ecd4278f1fd4fdf1251292b" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://oi65.tinypic.com/9aqn80.jpg)
which not only it opens automatically even if SAVE is chosen
but it doesn't open with default registered app but with system component....
@Kirilo, it is upstream bug:
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-49061
The workaround was to by default disable use of system icon theme. :-/
You can re-enable it in about:config but it will bring back this crash...
Ah, thanks. Fortunately it works for me without crash even after reenabling the icon theme. :happy:
@Emdek
1. Sorry, I didn't find any crashdump or something like that.
2. I mentioned it because it worked fine when I tried last year in some double-digit-version.
3. Ok, I thought it was by mistake.
4. It works with almost any "bigger" page (several MB). But maybe you need a slow internet access to notice. The "Reload"-Button will appear before the page is completely loaded. It can take several minutes afterwards for the page to load completely. Try www.faz.net or www.welt.de for example.
I can also confirm what exley says: clicking on STOP does not necessarily stop loading the page. STOP button changes to RELOAD, but the page continues loading. Maybe there is a connection between this and #4.
win7 32bit
again multi file select (test it on imagebam.com) does not work, this is like ancient bug never fixed
Must be a Windows thing because it works on Linux. (I'm posting from the browser in which I tested right now.) An upstream Qt bug maybe?
The problem with the entrance to the site https://qiwi.com/,that is, you enter and then you eject
An addition to #317: Stop-button sometimes doesn't react at all.
@exley, these YT issues are stuff that needs to be fixed by QtWebKit devs (they are working on revival based on current WebKit), in meantime you can use QtWebEngine backend which should work better in this case.
I'll check the remaining issues (except multiple selection, which behaves randomly in QtWebKit backend under Windows).
@py-thon, @1. uhm, I'm not sure, but perhaps there are some debug packages available in PPA, also you can try this to get backtrace:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Step-by-step_debugging_guide#Segmentation_faults
@2. Perhaps it dependent on Qt version, we are using default open dialog, BTW., now we suggest .opera directory by default under Linux and BSD.
@4. OK, I'll check that later.
@ovas, I need a better description of issue.
@ovas, I need a better description of issue.
The problem with the entrance to the site https://qiwi.com/,that is, you enter and then you eject
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fstick.kz%2Fimg%2F2016-04%2F10%2Fyecvd9nujtvsjrf1ckds0vubf.jpg&hash=f5c4099b268bcc32ad30b4ba56e0218f" rel="cached" data-hash="f5c4099b268bcc32ad30b4ba56e0218f" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://stick.kz/img/2016-04/10/yecvd9nujtvsjrf1ckds0vubf.jpg) (http://stick.kz/?v=2016-04-10_yecvd9nujtvsjrf1ckds0vubf.jpg)
Reply to Emdek #314 on: 2016-04-06, 19:20:16 (1459966816),
Using test-qtwebkit.exe, I can NOT reproduce the issue using test-qtwebkit.exe,
that is, the page seems to load fine and terminates. However, errors and warnings are shown
in the lower right corner.
As for using the context menu: When I right click on a non-actionable area in the page, the context menu shows that the reload button is correctly replaced with the stop loading button. However, left clicking on that stop button has NO effect -- the page is stuck in a never stop loading phase.
But these steps may reliably reproduce the problem.
In Otter118 (QtWebKit 32 bit or 64 bit [tested on both]):
1. Include the arguments file in the otter executable folder with text --portable.
2. Make sure there is not a cache or profile subfolder present.
In other words, like a completely fresh installation.
3. Execute otter-browser.exe and (on the blank address bar) input the web site
https://weather.com/weather/today/l/62801:4:US
4. Wait for the second round of loading which may require clicking through some SSL errors.
5. After a minute or more, try clicking on the stop button.
Note in Otter118: The page does not stop loading.
Expected result in Otter118: The page stops loading.
Result in Otter98: The page eventually stops loading on its owns and the stop button naturally returns to reload.
Result in Otter118 (QtWebEngine 32 bit or 64 bit): The page eventually stops loading on it owns
and the stop button naturally returns to reload.
Tested on Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1,
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit,
and Windows 10 Home 64-bit.
Others have noted this problem, namely:
exley Reply #315 on: 2016-04-07, 11:09:41 (1460023781)
"when page is loading, clicking on STOP doesn't stop loading page at all."
py-thon Reply #320 on: 2016-04-08, 13:49:08 (1460119748)
"Stop-button sometimes doesn't react at all."
I would use the QtWebEngine version but that version does not seem to remember the correct position or zoom setting from session to session. Each position is set to 0,0 and each zoom is set to 100.
So, can this problem be easily fixed?
Respectfully, Mathman12
oh boy oh boy
havent used otter quite some time hoping OLD things get fixed... but it just getting worst...
win7 32bit
again multi file select (test it on imagebam.com) does not work, this is like ancient bug never fixed
-
youtube, another ancient bug never fixed now with added bug, often it shows only 30% lower part of video
everything else is black
full screen is disabled even on "HD" quality O_o
-
also there is nowhere option to choose between using flash and html5 video which is annoying...
-
when page is loading clicking on STOP, doesn't stop loading page at all :(
-
and bug with saving images:
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Foi65.tinypic.com%2F9aqn80.jpg&hash=bea220086ecd4278f1fd4fdf1251292b" rel="cached" data-hash="bea220086ecd4278f1fd4fdf1251292b" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://oi65.tinypic.com/9aqn80.jpg)
which not only it opens automatically even if SAVE is chosen
but it doesn't open with default registered app but with system component....
2. I can replicate that issue with Youtube. Btw, to switch from HTML5 to Flash, add &nohtml5=true to the end of the url of the video you're viewing.
@ovas, I need a better description of issue.
The problem with the entrance to the site https://qiwi.com/,that is, you enter and then you eject
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fstick.kz%2Fimg%2F2016-04%2F10%2Fyecvd9nujtvsjrf1ckds0vubf.jpg&hash=f5c4099b268bcc32ad30b4ba56e0218f" rel="cached" data-hash="f5c4099b268bcc32ad30b4ba56e0218f" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://stick.kz/img/2016-04/10/yecvd9nujtvsjrf1ckds0vubf.jpg) (http://stick.kz/?v=2016-04-10_yecvd9nujtvsjrf1ckds0vubf.jpg)
Seems to be a cookie issue since it looks to me like its forgetting that its logged in.
after pressing the delete button tabs otter is not responding. You can not delete a bookmark.
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fstick.kz%2Fimg%2F2016-04%2F14%2F1b3cvlg45q1sqn4gdjckes3ln.jpg&hash=0609ea3299c5e7573e06ead5eb991a1a" rel="cached" data-hash="0609ea3299c5e7573e06ead5eb991a1a" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://stick.kz/img/2016-04/14/1b3cvlg45q1sqn4gdjckes3ln.jpg) (http://stick.kz/?v=2016-04-14_1b3cvlg45q1sqn4gdjckes3ln.jpg)
http://www.renault.de/renault-modellpalette/renault-pkw/scenic/neuer-scenic/ loads only partially on Otter.
Opera and Vivaldi display the page completely.
(using otter-browser_0.9.10-dev119-1~wily~ppa1_amd64.deb )
attention! url change of adblock plus. :idea:
- - -
indonesian
! URL: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/heradhis/indonesianadblockrules/master/subscriptions/abpindo.txt
arabic
! URL: https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/Liste_AR.txt
(redirect is withdrawn)
Otter build #123 has problems with Yandex.Metrika's webvisor, compared to Firefox.
Otter build #123 has problems with Yandex.Metrika's webvisor, compared to Firefox.
Moved to a new PC with new system, and these bugs gone. Or, maybe, Yandex itself changed something on his site.
i'm back :D
as when i come across bugged versions i leave otter, and even thought it will die as it was so bad, this was few versions ago,,,
but now i'm stunned how snappy it is, and finally OH FINNALY some things fixed
i'm here emdek to check in few obvious annoying bugs/things
1. click to play plugin is broken, at least on win32 (windows 7), simply doesn't work
2. for gawd sake... multiselect on open dialog for UPLOAD, STILL doesn't work (try imagebam.com as example for images)
3. tab nesting is becoming problem, if you open 30-40 tabs it simply becomes messy, not only X becomes centered so when you click on this small squared tab you close it -_-
3.1 tabs to get arrows on the right, but UI bug is this OVERLAPING:
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Foi63.tinypic.com%2F34rjfnq.jpg&hash=26407d2880f93c8aaba99bc88a2c2fe0" rel="cached" data-hash="26407d2880f93c8aaba99bc88a2c2fe0" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://oi63.tinypic.com/34rjfnq.jpg)
3.2 when arrows do appear and you click on RIGHT arrow to push tabs to left,
the second you move mouse cursor of the arrow/button, tabs will push back to right, and your last active tab will be focus
3.3 tab seen/unseen, would be nice to have some sort indication to see which tabs are "new open and unseen",
practically like old opera has...
other than this, I am amaized how well Otter now performs
off the arrow, tabs will push back to
otter 128, x64 crashes on windows 7 x64 :down:
Fault bucket , type 0
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0
Problem signature:
P1: otter-browser.exe
P2: 0.9.1.1
P3: 575f0e3b
P4: Qt5WebEngineCore.dll
P5: 5.7.0.0
P6: 57498055
P7: 80000003
P8: 0000000000dd2719
Faulting application name: otter-browser.exe, version: 0.9.1.1, time stamp: 0x575f0e3b
Faulting module name: Qt5WebEngineCore.dll, version: 5.7.0.0, time stamp: 0x57498055
Exception code: 0x80000003
Fault offset: 0x0000000000dd2719
Faulting process id: 0x580
Faulting application start time: 0x01d1c5c7a4c3a500
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\otter-128\otter-browser.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\otter-128\Qt5WebEngineCore.dll
Report Id: e2bf49e0-31ba-11e6-bca6-001617927af0
[0614/010143:ERROR:icu_util.cc(162)] Invalid file descriptor to ICU data received.
[0614/010143:FATAL:icu_util.cc(265)] Check failed: result.
Backtrace:
GetHandleVerifier [0x000007FEE8CB78C1+9665]
QtWebEngineCore::BrowserContextAdapter::isOffTheRecord [0x000007FEE8C812BC+265068]
QtWebEngineCore::CookieMonsterDelegateQt::hasCookieMonster [0x000007FEE9570648+4607832]
QtWebEngineCore::JavaScriptDialogController::qt_static_metacall [0x000007FEE8290B36+2686598]
QtWebEngineCore::WebContentsAdapter::webChannel [0x000007FEE7FF7071+13777]
QtWebEngineCore::WebContentsAdapter::webChannel [0x000007FEE7FF737F+14559]
QtWebEngineCore::BrowserContextAdapter::defaultContext [0x000007FEE7FB2047+23]
QWebEngineProfile::defaultProfile [0x000007FEF7E4B537+119]
(No symbol) [0x000000013F3BA596]
(No symbol) [0x000000013F25D8F6]
(No symbol) [0x000000013F2660D7]
(No symbol) [0x000000013F2528C4]
(No symbol) [0x000000013F3E59EC]
BaseThreadInitThunk [0x00000000778D59ED+13]
RtlUserThreadStart [0x0000000077B0B371+33]
[0614/010222:ERROR:icu_util.cc(162)] Invalid file descriptor to ICU data received.
[0614/010222:FATAL:icu_util.cc(265)] Check failed: result.
Backtrace:
GetHandleVerifier [0x000007FEE51178C1+9665]
QtWebEngineCore::BrowserContextAdapter::isOffTheRecord [0x000007FEE50E12BC+265068]
QtWebEngineCore::CookieMonsterDelegateQt::hasCookieMonster [0x000007FEE59D0648+4607832]
QtWebEngineCore::JavaScriptDialogController::qt_static_metacall [0x000007FEE46F0B36+2686598]
QtWebEngineCore::WebContentsAdapter::webChannel [0x000007FEE4457071+13777]
QtWebEngineCore::WebContentsAdapter::webChannel [0x000007FEE445737F+14559]
QtWebEngineCore::BrowserContextAdapter::defaultContext [0x000007FEE4412047+23]
QWebEngineProfile::defaultProfile [0x000007FEEDC3B537+119]
(No symbol) [0x000000013FBDA596]
(No symbol) [0x000000013FA7D8F6]
(No symbol) [0x000000013FA860D7]
(No symbol) [0x000000013FA728C4]
(No symbol) [0x000000013FC059EC]
BaseThreadInitThunk [0x00000000778D59ED+13]
RtlUserThreadStart [0x0000000077B0B371+33]
http://www.nzz.ch/international/terror-in-orlando/attentat-in-orlando-ein-amoklauf-von-vielen-der-wie-keiner-war-ld.88628 makes Otter freeze and consume 100 % of one CPU-core (version otter-browser_0.9.11-dev128-1~xenial~ppa1_amd64.deb).
There was a double button. How do I remove it?
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fstick.kz%2Fimg%2F2016-06%2F21%2Fsdo0idryx2ifwyuefhoxlkt0d.jpg&hash=f63bc88b3e835c426c048873fa41a38b" rel="cached" data-hash="f63bc88b3e835c426c048873fa41a38b" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://stick.kz/img/2016-06/21/sdo0idryx2ifwyuefhoxlkt0d.jpg) (http://stick.kz/?v=2016-06-21_sdo0idryx2ifwyuefhoxlkt0d.jpg)
you don't, its internal bug...
another bug i'd like to add is - HOW THE F do I enable flash for youtube ?
as it always forces HTML5 video ??? and chews 80% of my dualcore cpu
also html5 is broken on webkit version of otter, only ~15% of screen is visible and on "HD" option it cannot be fullscreened
another annoyance is when downloading anything, browser should PAUSE before user accepts download
but it doesn't, it auto downloads files, hello viruses !
another annoyance, whatever zoom you give for web pages
same zoom applies to source code editor - hello terrible view !
Otter still has problems with HTTP connection reuse (probably), on heavy sites with many loadable items. For example, when you surfing to Livecoding.tv livestreams (https://www.livecoding.tv/livestreams/), page progressbar remains at the bottom of page for long time, up to timeout. This issue occurs not every time, but in half of cases. Try to reload page multiple times to reproduce it.
I think, this is an Otter bug, not a Livecoding.tv issue.
One more bug: Otter sometimes loses ClearType.
i think thats coz of zoom settings
clear type disabled would show blurry font, this one is crisp just thin
i think thats coz of zoom settings
This is Yandex (https://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D1%85%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B7%D1%8C), as you see. You can follow the link and watch it yourself.
The dropdown-lists of the back/forward buttons have stopped working for me some weeks ago (I'm now on weekly 127; Linux x64, Qt 5.6.1), holding the buttons just does nothing.
The dropdown-lists of the back/forward buttons have stopped working for me some weeks ago (I'm now on weekly 127; Linux x64, Qt 5.6.1), holding the buttons just does nothing.
Confirmed. Probably two weeks ago in my case.
otter-browser-weekly131х32
Do not see the images
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Images do not appear on many websites. Rollback on V129
The dropdown-lists of the back/forward buttons have stopped working for me some weeks ago (I'm now on weekly 127; Linux x64, Qt 5.6.1), holding the buttons just does nothing.
Confirmed. Probably two weeks ago in my case.
I can't remember them ever working (currently weekly 131-1~yakkety, Linux x86, Qt 5.6.1).
For some weeks now (at least weeklies 125 and 128) plugin-on-demand-setting doesn't work. mp4-files on the site get played automatically.
131 doesn't have this problem as it doesn't show any image at all like ovas already mentioned.
To see the images uncheck the Easylist from the Content Blocking.... :eyes:
...everytime i open a link to another tab...the original tab goes from Zoom 148% down to 100%.... :ko:
no matter if it is tab or a background tab or a new window....only with the background window doesnt happen...
Disconnected Easylist and Ru Adlist, then went normal mapping sites. :yes: but with advertising :cry:
and still another site is not displayed correctly http://riperam.org
weekly 132 bug - cannot type '0' and '.' (period) into passward box. (QtWebEngine Version) ???
Is there any chance of sorting out the column widths in the transfers tab?
At the moment the filename column is squeezed up really small and the names truncated, and you can't just drag the divider to see more of it, you have to shrink one or more of the columns to the right of it to do it, which is really silly!
Then, just to make things even worse, when youv'e got it how you like it the setting isn't saved. Even when you open a new transfers window in the same session it's reverted back to how it was originally!
Also, I can't believe that the problem with Otter opening in a tiny window unless "continue previous session" is selected hasn't been fixed yet!
:(
this is dialog of weekly134-qtwebengine 64 bit version. please rewrite SSL version. ???
otter-browser-weekly137x32 pictures disappeared,
launched otter-browser-win64-0.9.11-weekly137 with images of all right
Why? What is the reason? :(
x64 also do not display images, rolled to v135
quickly corrected the error => otter-browser-win32-0.9.11-weekly137v2 :yes:
Otter 0.9.11 weekly 138 '' QtWEbKit'' version
Uncontrollable adblockplus ! :(
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P.S. But, custom lists is OKAY. If you use version 138, please check 'Enable custom rules'. :wait:
weekly 138, win x64
no settings are being saved/remembered
verry disapointing where otter is going...
some rudimentary stuff ain't working
v140 win7 x64, youtube lags like hell on html5 video, even on worst 240p
page zoom setting doesn't apply on newly opened tabs, one has to drag slider manually
beta 11
Known issues:
version 2 (UTC 19:30)
no problem about all images. :up:
Proxy :Manual Configration mode is available
ALL OK! :)
HTTP out! ???
HTTPS out! ???
FTP unknown...
SOCK5 unknown...
Updated Otter
Now I can't find anymore my blocking profile in the 'Content blocking > Profiles' list.
I can't even add.
Help!
EDIT: Sorry for my above hasty comment! I figured it out, now works! Thanks, Emdek, for this great, flexible feature!
Breaks Otter v149 on many sites
I like using the previous session quite a bit. An annoying bug has now appeared. Namely, if the web page is enlarged with the zoom in option, the correct zoom level is not remembered for that web page when Otter is executed again using the previous session. Steps to reproduce:
1. Load a new web page (say, www.ask.com).
2. Enlarge the web page quite a bit using the zoom in option under the view menu.
3. While the view is thus enlarged, exit Otter.
4. Execute Otter again with the option to reuse the previous session.
5. Note that the web page is not enlarged like it was in step 3. In fact, the web page appears even larger.
Using weekly 153, 64-bit, Windows 7 or 8. Maybe this bug can be corrected in a few weeks. Thank you for this browser.
Sincerely,
Mathman12
pictures are no longer displayed :monkey:
pictures are no longer displayed :monkey:
1. What OS are you running it on?
2. Are you using the latest weekly?
3. Is EnableImages in about:config set to enable?
Understood => RU AdList<=I blocked the display of images
Understood => RU AdList<=I blocked the display of images
Oh, it might be related to the issue I am having with certain sites not showing properly. Does the page in question only show text? If so, then its the same issue that I am having.
There appears to be a slight problem with the 32-bit version of Beta12 on Windows 7. Namely, some of the images do not display. Steps to reproduce:
1. Load the weather website -- www.weather.com.
2. Scoll down to where a lot of images are displayed. No images appear.
Hope that this problem can be corrected. I would like to use the smaller 32-bit version. The 64-bit version does not appear to have this problem.
Siincerely,
Mathman12
I have a similar problem on 32bit windows webkit version beta 12 (no xp) here on youtube, where i have no images on the preview thumbnails of the videos; I have tried to disable content-blocking and all user js scripts with no results.
the xp webkit-legacy version works well.
anyway, a :cheers: for the beta12!
Note that the web page is not enlarged like it was in step 3. In fact, the web page appears even larger.
Indeed, seems to be happening when built against revived QtWebKit, it seems that zoom value is set as base value (setting 100% makes it look like if zoom was set to value from previous session) and then applied again.
About images issue, apparently QtWebKit build for Windows 32 bit has again issues with JPEG rendering. :-/
For now I can only suggest to stick to
xp build.
BTW, this topic is a mess, please use one topic per issue (unless they are related).
I'll close it before end of January, please confirm reported issues that weren't fixed yet.
So everything was already fixed? :-D
Closing as promised.