There's that other alternative forum to replace My Opera. Its secret purpose is to gather momentum to the opening of whatever will be unveiled at Vivaldi.com
Meanwhile, I set up an account there, including the email account. The site has evil cookies that make logging-in tough and they throw me out every now and then, randomly. And the email account had the first major breakdown this weekend https://vivaldi.net/en-US/forum/debates/400-no-access-to-mail
More to bash? More to praise?
They've thrown together several different pieces of open-source software to more or less equal what My Opera had to offer, but integration isn't always great yet. Mostly you notice it in the giant heaps of JS and CSS that are dragged in by the various individual parts, but I'm sure the logging out troubles are somehow related as well.
In any case, they got a fair amount of the My Opera populace, and that's probably a good thing.
In any case, they got a fair amount of the My Opera populace, and that's probably a good thing. (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=237.1;msg=12553)
The entire concept, if any, is wrong.
Even for the MyOpera populace that doesn't understand why their photo albums are out of their blogs, why email doesn't have any warning if you have new mail when you log in or even what do you have to do just to see your blog.
The site has evil cookies that make logging-in tough and they throw me out every now and then, randomly.
What cookies are you referring to? Just asking.
@krake
The cookies that websites place in your browser. I've made a topic on this before https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=221.0
@krake
The cookies that websites place in your browser. I've made a topic on this before https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=221.0
I know what a cookie is or at least I think so :) You may name the evil sites placing those evil cookies.
I don't have problems with being kept logged in. However after closing the browser and visiting Vivaldi I have to log in despite of enabled cookies.
I haven't tried it in the past week, but my session gets terminated while browsing the site.
I haven't tried it in the past week, but my session gets terminated while browsing the site.
I saw such complains from others too, so you are not the only one. It just never occured to me so far.
...my session gets terminated while browsing the site.
That's been my issue too. Independent of the browser. I have used many browsers there.
@ersi
Since I have the feeling that you didn't understood the meaning of my question, I'll try to elaborate.
Speaking of 'good' and 'evil' cookies and the way I see it.
Any website placing a cookie on your HD will try to find rationals about its usefulness. One might agree on some of those rationals and disagree on others.
Basically the user has the free choice which cookies to allow or block, assumed the browser supports such a choice. At least this was the case in the past.
Beyond 'good' and 'evil', I consider cookies you can't block (third party cookies with a unique ID for each user) irritating to say the least.
Such services placing third party cookies with an unique ID you can't block are on the rise. CloudFlare is one of them. I was curios if you meant such a cookie (by visiting Vivaldi you get a CloudFlare cookie).
(Of course there are also ways to circumvent such third party cookies with an unique ID to be placed permanantly on your HD.)
Sneaky cookies are a special case of evil cookies.
I got another reason to keep an eye on Vivaldi. Well, maybe not Vivaldi in particular, but--.
I just got home from one of my trips a few minutes ago. Opened up my email, and top of the list is a note from Vivaldi that I have a message. From a young woman. From the UK. Seems she saw my personal blurb-- what there is of it-- and wants to get romantically involved.
Uh huh. Right! I can smell the ticket and passport scam from here, and I haven't even written back to her yet. Even assuming for the moment that I'm dealing with a "her". (On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog-- old saying.)
So-- Vivaldi has been around long enough to start getting hit by the spammers/scammers. No surprise I guess.
About the cookies: When do you supposes Vivaldi will get the cookie that keeps you signed in to work? This is basic. Every website that has memberships has one. Except, of course, for Vivaldi. Makes the site look like it was put together by amateurs working under emergency conditions in the middle of the night to have something up by morning. I await more professional performance.
I got that one too, and so did at least a few others.
Sounds like we all got one. I can't wait to meet her!
Me too.
She was fascinated by my profile.
Looks like many got it, but I am on ignore :( https://vivaldi.net/forum/spanish/404-love-scam-in-vivaldi
She's turned on by empty profiles it seems :right:
...my session gets terminated while browsing the site.
That's been my issue too. Independent of the browser. I have used many browsers there.
Hey, I must correct that. Otter browser seems to stay logged decently :D
Figures—it must be an issue with real Opera! :doh:
Actually Otter browser also doesn't stay logged when you browse away from Vivaldi, but at least it doesn't get rudely spit out when merely idling. All other browsers do.
Keeping an eye on Vivaldi.net (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=237.msg12550#msg12550)
Why?
Keeping an eye on Vivaldi.net (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=237.msg12550#msg12550)
Why?
Because it sucks because it sucks. :left:
Also, because I do not understand why some other former members (BernG for instance) refused the offer to come here, instead going to that joke of a forum.
Keeping an eye on Vivaldi.net (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=237.msg12550#msg12550)
Why?
Point & laugh? :left: :right:
Keeping an eye on Vivaldi.net (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=237.msg12550#msg12550)
Why?
Point & laugh? :left: :right:
There are better things to keep your eye on!
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.geotorrents.com%2Fimages%2F24342028072340021422.jpg&hash=7ede16a5d298199fd3a6ee40b576d95d" rel="cached" data-hash="7ede16a5d298199fd3a6ee40b576d95d" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://image.geotorrents.com/images/24342028072340021422.jpg)
There are better things to keep your eye on!
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.geotorrents.com%2Fimages%2F24342028072340021422.jpg&hash=7ede16a5d298199fd3a6ee40b576d95d" rel="cached" data-hash="7ede16a5d298199fd3a6ee40b576d95d" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://image.geotorrents.com/images/24342028072340021422.jpg)
Hey Jim! You're disappointing me. Those don't qualify for measures according to US standards.
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.odditieszone.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F12%2Fvery-big-tits-2.jpg&hash=6fcc6fdf8c48b4cdeb77452911221894" rel="cached" data-hash="6fcc6fdf8c48b4cdeb77452911221894" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://www.odditieszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/very-big-tits-2.jpg)
Reminds me of my pendulum clock times two.
(https://dndsanctuary.eu/imagecache.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinkjooz.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F07%2Fclock-200x284.jpg&hash=c44193bdb922c2c7bbd1c129dca99421" rel="cached" data-hash="c44193bdb922c2c7bbd1c129dca99421" data-warn="External image, click here to view original" data-url="http://www.pinkjooz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/clock-200x284.jpg)
May I say that those who posts in "vivaldi" are sissies?
No?
Okay, I wouldn't say it.
Vivaldi.net seems to have less vitality than this place, yes, (or is it merely that I am less active there than here?) but now there are posts that give hints of something big.
So, where's Vivaldi Browser? (https://vivaldi.net/forum/browsers/572-so-where-s-vivaldi-browser)
And in "Improving your favorite web browser" the current last post says (https://vivaldi.net/forum/browsers/70-improving-your-favorite-web-browser?start=20#7294)
Thank you guys, many of these suggestions are very good ones, and duly noted. :)
It may of course turn out to be out a big bang anticlimax also, which will be interesting in its own way. Stay tuned.
First time I've been to that site in months. Indeed, not much has changed... More complaining now.
Curious how our communities mirror each other too. Wonder if it'd ever be beneficial to merge at some point?
My concern is not to lose yet another site where I keep a blog...
I followed your "where's Vivaldi Browser" link, ersi. Did you note that sgun's reply came six months after the question was posted? :)
But absence of evidence is not evidence of absence! We shall see.
I followed your "where's Vivaldi Browser" link, ersi. Did you note that sgun's reply came six months after the question was posted?
I think you must've misread
Jun for
Jan. :P
Yup! So sorry… (Specially, if anyone took that as a criticism of sgun.) My eyes? Or the color scheme and font? Doesn't matter: I'd better start using the browser's zoom in function more regularly!
Thanks for the quick correction, Frenzie.
Seems to have died just now.
Edit: And resurrected again.
Edit: And resurrected again.
Thankfully I don't have any link anymore to watch such aberration and I don't want to have it.
Another site, DnD, remains loyal to itself, a bunch of maniacs competing (with relative enthusiasm) for the salvation of mankind at all possible levels of hallucination.
Great. :)
Here's a link for you http://forums.opera.com/discussion/comment/15192943#Comment_15192943
See, it's our erstwhile Josh doing his normal thing. Isn't it marvelous to see him alive and well?
:lol:
See, it's our erstwhile Josh doing his normal thing. Isn't it marvelous to see him alive and well?
I clicked on that! I've read some stuff!
:yuck: :ko: Don't do it again. Mercy, please... :faint:
Vivaldi.com has unveiled a product. Test and share opinions.
Edit: For Linux, available as .deb and .rpm from the website, and in Arch user repository.
See, it's our erstwhile Josh doing his normal thing. Isn't it marvelous to see him alive and well?
:o Vladimir is watching him...shhhhhh! :o
Vivaldi.com has unveiled a product.
I skim over that link to the forum in my bookmarks and briefly debate on deleting it from time to time. There's little to no chance I'll ever register there. Somehow I doubt the browser will entice me much.
https://vivaldi.com/#Home (https://vivaldi.com/#Home)
Took a quick look earlier. Right now the browser is a test-project, it's up to you if you want to be a guinea pig for it. I'll wait it out a bit, seems I got enough browsers anyway.
Fast forward to 2015, the browser we once loved has changed its direction.
One could argue in the mesh of failed half-assed ideas they actually picked a direction. That they picked a bad one may be my opinion but looking back to my bittersweet experience with Opera I have to ask where the bastard sister of it will be when we fast forward next.
Fast forward to 2015, the browser we once loved has changed its direction.
Just another Chrome-fork.
Indeed. It has taken the direction imposed by Google.
No option to turn off scripting and system wide network settings.
Can't tell how fast it is since I didn't go so far to connect it to the internet.
Just another Chrome-fork.
Indeed. It has taken the direction imposed by Google.
Selling the soul to the devil. It happens to the weak.
Vivaldi.net now pre-screens blog posts before publishing. That place is now totally lost as a blogging platform.
I've just deleted Vivaldi from my bookmarks. I suppose I could go there and end my membership, but it doesn't seem worth the bother. Deleting from the bookmarks will be good enough.
Fast forward to 2015, the browser we once loved has changed its direction.
One could argue in the mesh of failed half-assed ideas they actually picked a direction. That they picked a bad one may be my opinion but looking back to my bittersweet experience with Opera I have to ask where the bastard sister of it will be when we fast forward next.
In regards to the browser... Deleted it.
I've just deleted Vivaldi from my bookmarks. I suppose I could go there and end my membership, but it doesn't seem worth the bother. Deleting from the bookmarks will be good enough.
I agree. Haven't looked at it in ages and their browser is irrelevant to me.
We have reset the passwords for the small number of vivaldi.net user accounts affected by the recent CloudFlare data leak. If yours was among them, your old password will no longer work below. Please recover password via your registered email.
My password doesn't work. My registered email was the My Opera email, now discontinued.
So long, Vivaldi.
Unrelated to the community, but this looks somewhat interesting: https://vivaldi.com/blog/snapshots/a-historic-snapshot-vivaldi-browser-snapshot-1-8-770-9/
I somewhat recently changed my Vivaldi password from "Meh, Webkit." to a more secure random-generated string. I'd changed my My Opera password to that following either the announcement or the alpha of Opera 15 and I carried it over to Vivaldi.
PS My Opera Sync password is something different, no use trying. ;)
PS My Opera Sync password is something different, no use trying. ;)
Meh :irked:
Ha, I was coached to add a pic to my blog post and now I am featured at Vivaldi.net
(https://ersi.vivaldi.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/308/2018/03/Ekraanipilt_2018-03-07_12-54-43.png)
Oddly enough they don't include the relevant meta stuff to make sure it also displays the cool picture when shared on social networks. See, e.g., the Facebook validator (https://developers.facebook.com/tools/debug/sharing/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fersi.vivaldi.net%2F2018%2F03%2F04%2Fhow-to-wget%2F).
The 'og:image' property should be explicitly provided, even if a value can be inferred from other tags.
I wrote a half-related blog post about it here: https://fransdejonge.com/2018/03/twitter-and-facebook-dont-support-svg-yet/
For my recent frontpage redesign I needed featured pictures, so besides exposing them to my own blog I also made (for now some) of my posts look nicer when shared.
Btw, you should check out mankier (https://www.mankier.com/explain?command=wget+-r+-l1+-np+-nd+--accept%3Dpdf+-c+-nc+%24URL) to explain commands. It's a a very nice way of browsing man pages too: https://www.mankier.com/1/wget And of course explainshell.com (https://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=wget+-r+-l1+-np+-nd+--accept%3Dpdf+-c+-nc) but it's less clear imo.
Btw, you should check out mankier (https://www.mankier.com/explain?command=wget+-r+-l1+-np+-nd+--accept%3Dpdf+-c+-nc+%24URL) to explain commands. It's a a very nice way of browsing man pages too: https://www.mankier.com/1/wget And of course explainshell.com (https://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=wget+-r+-l1+-np+-nd+--accept%3Dpdf+-c+-nc) but it's less clear imo.
Ah, thanks. I have seen how some people use some sort of automation to unpack their commands, but I did not know what's that thing that automates. It's mankier!