Poll
Question:
Do You Trust Doctors?
Option 1: Always
votes: 0
Option 2: Never
votes: 0
Option 3: Sometimes
votes: 4
Option 4: Only When I'm Armed With A Taser
votes: 0
My wife needed new glasses, so we went to an office attached to a local Walmart facility. Maybe that should have been a warning.
The upshot is that she's been to three facilities for a total of four visits...
AND she has
at least two more visits! It's a real con game. These guys run a game of you recommend me and I'll return the favor. These are going to be the most expensive glasses I've ever been involved in. Add to that the fact that today's visit included a recommendation that my wife consider Lasik surgery.
Average LASIK Eye Surgery Costs. Keep in mind that these prices are for one procedure, which means one eye only. If you're having LASIK on both eyes, you'll need to double the price quoted. In 2013, the average cost overall for laser vision correction was $2,073 per eye (up from $1,941 the previous year).
Sears would have given her the exam and two pairs of glasses for about $100.00… Nobody ever taught you how to shop?
(If she needs multi-focul lenses, the current prices are about double…)
But I suspect they see you coming from a mile away!
Dman shame and in the wrong country jimbro!
Ten years ago I needed both eyes done by the laser treatment and no charge. Unfortunately about 5 years ago took Macular Degeneration in one eye but every year is checked and has remained stable. All done on the NHS and even if someone went private would still be cheaper than over the water!
Sears would have given her the exam and two pairs of glasses for about $100.00… Nobody ever taught you how to shop?
Me? Didn't I mention that it was for my wife. She doesn't consult me when she shops. Apparently, you haven't been married, or you were married to a "Yes, honey" kind of woman.
Dman shame and in the wrong country jimbro!
Ten years ago I needed both eyes done by the laser treatment and no charge. Unfortunately about 5 years ago took Macular Degeneration in one eye but every year is checked and has remained stable. All done on the NHS and even if someone went private would still be cheaper than over the water!
I have no idea what it would have cost had my wife ignored the recommendations of the person in the facility, but $140 is a possibility. The problem stems from her accepting the recommendations of that person. My wife says that it will never happen again.
The NHS is terrific, but it isn't free. Nothing is free, not even in Scotland.
For 2015/16 the NHS budget is £115.4 billion. In the US that's $176,359,975,000.
For a comparative measure, the Defense Department budget for 2015 is $526,000,000,000. What the hell, this is a dangerous world, but I prefer the UK's priorities.
Apparently, you haven't been married, or you were married to a "Yes, honey" kind of woman.
Yeah, you're right. (But when she said it she meant "Believe what you want. I'll do what I want." :) )
"Believe what you want. I'll do what I want."
Been there, done that. In fact, still doing that. Going to a wine party tonight. I don't drink wine, don't want to be with people drinking wine. The last outing wasn't fun.
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Did you know that Modesto is the home of Thunderbird? (Which really is better warm… But only the most down-scale shops sell it that way. :) )
Not a wine aficionado, I didn't know that.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOnCYHbbWhQ[/video]
What you overlook here jimbro is that anyone living here including new arrivals gets the treatment they need including those who don't pay national insurance. The NHS is still one h of a better process than what happens in the States. There the medical progression is a money making paradise.Too many there who are tight money-wise cannot get what they need. Twice i have watched a documentary about a team of doctors who volunteered travelling around the States setting up a mobile camp for free treatment and they could't cope.
"Is Thunderbird actually a wine?" No, of course not! It's an alcoholic beverage… But one of the least likely to be the cause of DUI. Guys who drink Thunderbird do (as the video -partly clever- noted) tend to keep the bottle in a paper bag; and they're usually sitting on a stoop or a park bench.
What you overlook here jimbro is that anyone living here including new arrivals gets the treatment they need including those who don't pay national insurance. The NHS is still one h of a better process than what happens in the States.
I agree.
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As I noted. :)
Here's an article about American wines. It sounds like it might explain why I prefer wine from France.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/31/magazine/the-wrath-of-grapes.html
I've never been a wine drinker but my wife is. When she samples something new to her, I always take a tiny sample. The result is always the same...damned awful. I can't explain that response any better than I could if I took a sip of wine vinegar.
But then many elements conspire to make this vinegar special. Its history for starters—the very first grape must vinegars were made in the area in Roman times, although the qualifier ‘balsamic’ was only appended to the condiment in the 18th century. Then its production method—must from Trebbiano, Lambrusco or Ancellotta grapes is cooked, then fermented and aged in progressively smaller casks made of chestnut, mulberry, oak, juniper, ash and other woods, for at least 12 years. And most of all, its taste—thick, viscous and glossy dark, it teases the mouth with a round, velvety texture and a complex flavour that has notes of must and of the many woods the vinegar aged in. And, unlike any other vinegar, the balsamico’s perfect balance of sweet and sour ensures it is just as good on salads, meats and parmesan as on strawberries, zabaione or custard.
See what I mean?
I scanned the piece from the NYTimes. There's something about wine reviews that I find entertaining. They have the fragrance of a review of a religion.
I love the NYTimes! It has the essence of the finest journalism with a hint of the best ancient Greek texts and a touch of Cato's
De agricultura.
My wife and I went to a wine tasting event in the Tennessee wilderness just yesterday. Cheese and bread. Fruit. Locally produced wine. My choice?
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Now that is a real golden answer.
I've never been a wine drinker but my wife is. When she samples something new to her, I always take a tiny sample. The result is always the same...damned awful. I can't explain that response any better than I could if I took a sip of wine vinegar.
But then many elements conspire to make this vinegar special. Its history for starters—the very first grape must vinegars were made in the area in Roman times, although the qualifier ‘balsamic’ was only appended to the condiment in the 18th century. Then its production method—must from Trebbiano, Lambrusco or Ancellotta grapes is cooked, then fermented and aged in progressively smaller casks made of chestnut, mulberry, oak, juniper, ash and other woods, for at least 12 years. And most of all, its taste—thick, viscous and glossy dark, it teases the mouth with a round, velvety texture and a complex flavour that has notes of must and of the many woods the vinegar aged in. And, unlike any other vinegar, the balsamico’s perfect balance of sweet and sour ensures it is just as good on salads, meats and parmesan as on strawberries, zabaione or custard.
See what I mean?
I scanned the piece from the NYTimes. There's something about wine reviews that I find entertaining. They have the fragrance of a review of a religion.
I love the NYTimes! It has the essence of the finest journalism with a hint of the best ancient Greek texts and a touch of Cato's De agricultura.
My wife and I went to a wine tasting event in the Tennessee wilderness just yesterday. Cheese and bread. Fruit. Locally produced wine. My choice?
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Is that before it went through the urinary system or after?
Is that before it went through the urinary system or after?
Once again, I lied. That's Mr. Howie's favorite drink. After scotch whisky, it's Scotland's finest brew. It is available here in Tennessee, but...well, just but.
Jim's favorite drinks
==================
1. coffee, 2 cups per day
2. diet caffeine-free Coke, 1 or 2 per day...too much potassium*
3. water
4. milk
* A while back my doctor told me to limit the amount of Coke I drank because of the potassium in it. I asked what it could do to me. Her answer? It can kill you.
Methinks she was exaggerating.
* A while back my doctor told me to limit the amount of Coke I drank because of the potassium in it. I asked what it could do to me. Her answer? It can kill you.
Methinks she was exaggerating.
Pretty much anything can kill you if you take enough of it.
Including The DnD Sanctuary, I suppose.
Her answer? It can kill you.
(That quote belongs to Jimbro but I am too lazy for search it.)
Dear Jimbro, why do you go to woman doctors? Women knows shit about a man's health and pleasures.
Do you want to get killed by some idiotic women doctor? They are good to treat babies and the such, not men.
Get a real doctor if you are an hypochondriac.
Get a real doctor if you are an hypochondriac.
He's old. Old people's issues are real. Thus far I have not seen a doctor who could save people from old age...
Her answer? It can kill you.
(That quote belongs to Jimbro but I am too lazy for search it.)
Women knows shit about a man's health and pleasures.
They are good to treat babies and the such, not men.
Which are you? I have often wondered. Your name doesn't give a hint.
save people from old age...
It's called death.
Get a real doctor if you are an hypochondriac.
He's old. Old people's issues are real. Thus far I have not seen a doctor who could save people from old age...
Move to Chicago. Certain South-Side neighborhoods have gangs that come fully equipped to save you from all of your old-age problems--- by making sure you never live to get old.
I live in the Western 'Burbs, and so I've gotten old and begin to have the old age aches and pains. It's not a lot of fun to have arthritic knees and an aching back, but it beats moving to Englewood (a South-Side neighborhood of Chicago, for you out-of-towners).
No, I know Chicago well enough not to move there.
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I live in the Western 'Burbs, and so I've gotten old and begin to have the old age aches and pains. It's not a lot of fun to have arthritic knees and an aching back, but it beats moving to Englewood (a South-Side neighborhood of Chicago, for you out-of-towners).
I think I'll start a new thread on poverty. More later.
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/wealth-poverty/guns-and-dollars/economic-breakdown-chicagos-englewood-neighborhood (http://www.marketplace.org/topics/wealth-poverty/guns-and-dollars/economic-breakdown-chicagos-englewood-neighborhood)
This week, Marketplace's Sylvester Monroe reports from Englewood, a neighborhood on Chicago's South Side, which has one of the highest homicide rates in the city. Here's an economic breakdown of the area:
Population: 30,654
Average income: $11,993 (Chicago's is $27,148)
Poverty level: 42.2 percent
Unemployment rate: 21.3 percent
Percent without high school diploma: 29.4 percent
Violent crime ranking: From 11/26/12 to 12/26/2012, Englewood ranked 9th of 77 neighborhoods when it comes to homicides, assaults and rapes. Nineteen violent crimes over the time period were on the street or on a sidewalk. One was at a school and one was at a bus stop. There were 17 homicides in 2012.
Property crime rankings: From 11/26/12 to 12/26/2012, Englewood ranked 6th of 77 neighborhoods when it comes to thefts, car thefts and arson.
Quality of life crime rankings: From 11/26/12 to 12/26/2012, Englewood ranked 6th of 77 neighborhoods when it comes to narcotics, vandalism and prostitution crimes.
Other facts: Englewood has one of the highest concentrations of relocated project households that use housing vouchers on the private market; Of Englewood's 15,210 households, 274 were moved from the projects to Englewood between 1999 and 2010. That's 1.5 percent of households, one of the highest concentrations in the city.
Quote from: mjmsprt40 on 2015-06-12, 02:56:36 (https://dndsanctuary.eu/index.php?topic=1153.msg41514#msg41514)I live in the Western 'Burbs, and so I've gotten old and begin to have the old age aches and pains. It's not a lot of fun to have arthritic knees and an aching back, but it beats moving to Englewood (a South-Side neighborhood of Chicago, for you out-of-towners).I think I'll start a new thread on poverty. More later.
I changed my mind. No poverty thread from me.
Last time I was at the optician (test free) my reading and distant accompanying specs came to £70.
Well, my wife picked up her new glasses yesterday. Altogether the cost was $801! The problem was that she was played by doctors, etc., working in concert. It's disgusting that professionals would work in concert to milk a client.
A case for Doctors... sexually transmitted diseases.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z9DwMKvqcc[/video]
For goodness sake jimbro that is a disgusting price. Glad i live where I do with such prices and an awful situation.
It is disgusting. If I didn't have vision care as a part of my retirement package, it would have been much worse.
the cost was $801!
And one? strange prices you have there. Buy them here, only 799,99 €.
Which comes to about $893. We'll stick with the mess we fell into.
Now, if we cut back slightly on the $600,000,000,000 we spend on defense, glasses could be free.
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Now, if we cut back slightly on the $600,000,000,000 we spend on defense, glasses could be free.
So you could see the enemy invading you...
Now, if we cut back slightly on the $600,000,000,000 we spend on defense, glasses could be free.
So you could see the enemy invading you...
United States has never been invaded. Most likely, United States will fall like Rome: After having conquered all the world and thus having eliminated any chance of invasion, it implodes on its own weight.
Most likely, United States will fall like Rome: After having conquered all the world and thus having eliminated any chance of invasion, it implodes on its own weight.
I worry about Canada.
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRPGPAnPNa8[/video]
Back to doctors...
An anesthesiologist is eating her words, after a Fairfax County, Virginia, jury ordered her and a Bethesda, Maryland practice to pay a patient $500,000 in damages for medical malpractice and defamation.
The patient, identified only as "D.B." in court papers to protect his identity, was undergoing a routine colonoscopy in April 2013 at a Reston, Va., facility.
Woman Sues Hospital for Sticker Prank During Surgery
According to court documents, D.B. used his smartphone to record the doctor's instructions for post-operative care but forgot to stop the recording when he was sedated.
On his way home from the procedure, he started listening to the recording and found that the anesthesiologist, Tiffany Ingham, and other medical staff had made insulting comments about him while he was unconscious.
"Really, after five minutes of talking to you in pre-op, I wanted to punch you in the face and man you up a little bit," Ingham could be heard saying in the recording. The recordings, which were entered into evidence in the lawsuit, also caught Ingham writing a false diagnosis in D.B.'s chart.
"I'm going to mark hemorrhoids even though we don't see them and probably won't," she said in the recording. "I'm just going to take a shot in the dark."
United States has never been invaded.
Odd. My history books talk of the War of 1812. :P
Amazing! Talking history books.
:D :D
I still feel for jimbro's wife and the cost is mind-boggling. If she had been here the glasses would have been les than£100 and even around being under $100 dollars and as I said although I am now trying bi-focals my last 2 pairs for distance and reading cost less than $100 around £75 and the test, free. He is so right about the ridiculous military budget as so many people could get better basic things.
United States has never been invaded.
Odd. My history books talk of the War of 1812. :P
So do mine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_invasion_of_Russia but United States was not invaded there. What do your history books say?
They call that Napoleon's Russian campaign. The War of 1812 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812) was on another continent without Napoleonic involvement.
United States has never been invaded.
Odd. My history books talk of the War of 1812. :P
So do mine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_invasion_of_Russia but United States was not invaded there. What do your history books say?
British forces burned Washington during the War of 1812. Since the US was already a nation by that time, on our 4th president (James Madison) that counts as an invasion by a foreign power. Geez, and here you Europeans are always spouting about how we don't know history beyond our shores..........Get a better history book.
They call that Napoleon's Russian campaign. The War of 1812 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812) was on another continent without Napoleonic involvement.
In Russia it's called (Patriotic) War of 1812. The American War of 1812 was indeed unknown to me. From what I read on Wikipedia, it can be seen either as a conflict between the States and the Kingdom in the context of Napoleonic wars or as an extension of the American War of Independence.
British forces burned Washington during the War of 1812. Since the US was already a nation by that time, on our 4th president (James Madison) that counts as an invasion by a foreign power. Geez, and here you Europeans are always spouting about how we don't know history beyond our shores..........Get a better history book.
Interesting. From what I read on Wikipedia, it looks like the United States succeeded in making enemies by declaring war and pushing into foreign territory first, i.e. if there was an invasion, you did it first, whereas the invasion by the Brits was far from unprovoked.
So, Mr. Madison thought he was going to conquer Canada. Thanks for calling my attention to it. I didn't know this about him. Always happy to learn new stuff, even though it's just another detail indicative of the trend that has been known all along.
And even if jimbro's good lady had been here seeing doctors here her glasses would never have reached that amount and certainly could have got a pair less than 3 figures.. It is every day things like that which makes the military bill another disgrace and to the people less well off. We could have an overseas fortnight holiday for what she had to pay.
I should have mentioned that the bill covered much more that the glasses. The details aren't interesting, so....
Average LASIK Eye Surgery Costs. Keep in mind that these prices are for one procedure, which means one eye only. If you're having LASIK on both eyes, you'll need to double the price quoted. In 2013, the average cost overall for laser vision correction was $2,073 per eye (up from $1,941 the previous year).
They should offer a mutli-eye discount for that price, like they do with car insurance. :P
That jimbro is also a shocking price as well. Glad i live here.
Glad i live here.
So are we.
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My wife's lasik work is nowhere near those figures.
Medicine was never for the poor.
How I laugh when capitalists wants social welfare.
Tut, tut, jimbro. A routine ex-colonist bit there!
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