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Topic: What's Going on in the Americas? (Read 261718 times)

Re: What's Going on in the Americas?

Reply #850 –
Yes it is an odd situation completely and not getting any better.
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Reply #851 –
Quote from: ersi on
I'm still surprised Greece was never declared bankrupt, even though it was (and is) bankrupt.
Two main reasons coming to my mind:
- Trying to keep running a sick financial system.
- Keeping political leverage on Greece.

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Reply #852 –
If there was a country declared (not declaring) bankrupt it was Greece...

Not anymore by the way but that's another story. As always Northerners are slow, too slow to react.
That's why they always lose.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #853 –
Too slow to react? Kind of odd when you think of what Portugal begged for to keep going!
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Reply #854 –
Shut up, you are out of Europe .. maybe part of Africa, America... something like that, not Europe anymore.
Basicaly you turned into a savage. And as a savage you'll be treated, :)
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #855 –
Expected your displeasure as GB is a nation that gives more to the EU than gets out so  less to subsidise Portugal which is the very opposite!  :yes:
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Reply #856 –
'Lunch Shaming'

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"She got to the cashier, they scanned her PIN and the cashier said this to the 4-year-old: 'You have no money.' [The cashier] reached down, picked up her tray, took the milk off the tray, dumped the food, and sent the child away crying. My jaw dropped. I felt like I was just kicked in the gut,” explained Holt. "This is breakfast now, so her last meal might have been 12 or 13 hours ago. And who knows what that meal consisted of. Insult to injury is the fact that they dump the food in the presence of the child. The message that sends to a child is 'I care about my bottom line. I don't care about you or your feelings or your hunger.'"

Trillions spent on wars but no money for some children's lunch.
Giving a lunch for free to a child whos mother can't afford to pay for, means communism - something even worse than an empty stomach of a child.

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Reply #857 –
Quote from: krake on
Trillions spent on wars but no money for some children's lunch.
You're misreading the story, and it's not really a new story: Bureaucracies do dumb shit because — Rules Is Rules! It's not that the money isn't there. It's that the mindset of government workers is often perverse…
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Reply #858 –
Too easy an answer Oakdale.
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Reply #859 –
Quote from: rjhowie on
GB is a nation that gives more to the EU than gets out
That must be the reason why you'll have to pay so much for what you already received... (and yes you will pay.. if not, you don't even sell a nail to Europe, simple as that), that must be the reason that you seem like psicotic rats not knowing what to do after the shit you've done.

Bye bye Non European. Join your American cousins, you've nobody else to receive you. :)
Enjoy Trump ruling you.
A matter of attitude.

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Reply #860 –
The EU budget is marginal to the economy, less than a percent of GDP. Britain provides a minor part to that budget. By the signs there will be significant changes to that budget, but of political rather than economic reasons.

Only a small part of the EU is in the Americas though.

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Reply #861 –
Quote from: rjhowie on
GB is a nation that gives more to the EU than gets out

GB held this false view already before it had joined. Because of this false view, it should never have been permitted to join. GB had the most exceptions from EU rules and was always whining for more exceptions. You get the prize for being the worst EU member ever. Worse than Greece.

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Reply #862 –
Cobblers dear Europhile. We even got money BACK years ago for overpaying. To compare us with the bankrupt and done in financial  mess like Greece is juvenile. London is still an important world financial centre sonny.
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Reply #863 –
Quote from: rjhowie on
Cobblers dear Europhile. We even got money BACK years ago for overpaying.
So when you got money back, it means that you didn't provide much net value. Anyway, the problem with your argument is exactly that it's about money, nothing else, as if membership of EU were about money. In reality, membership of EU is about whether you follow the policies and contribute to unity or not. GB was always most disruptive.
 
Quote from: rjhowie on
To compare us with the bankrupt and done in financial  mess like Greece is juvenile. London is still an important world financial centre sonny.
You are simply proving my point. The money-centric view of EU is as low as it gets.

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Reply #864 –
Quote from: ersi on
You are simply proving my point. The money-centric view of EU is as low as it gets.
To be fair, it was the EEC they joined, not the EU. Although for the rest of us even that was always clearly a means to an end: no more war (i.e., unity).

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Reply #865 –
Well ersi our economy, employment, etc is reasonable.
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Reply #866 –
Quote from: jax on
Only a small part of the EU is in the Americas though.

An EU bordering Brazil, Morocco, Iran, and North Korea isn't likely to happen soon, but eventually...

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Reply #867 –
Quote from: jax on
An EU bordering Brazil, Morocco, Iran, and North Korea isn't likely to happen soon, but eventually...
Putin and Xi will try… Communists all, have a common goal.

Of course, what's going on in Venezuela and Brazil is the result of capitalism and U.S. interference… Russia, Iran and Cuba had nothing to do with what happened! :)
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Reply #868 –
I don't think Russia joining the EU is on the cards quite yet. Putin wouldn't want it, and Xi would probably have mixed feelings about it too. EU will have to be content bordering Brazil, Morocco, Libya and Syria for now.

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Reply #869 –
Quote from: OakdaleFTL on
Quote from: jax on
An EU bordering Brazil, Morocco, Iran, and North Korea isn't likely to happen soon, but eventually...
Putin and Xi will try… Communists all, have a common goal.
EU, Brazil, Morocco, etc. are Communists?

Quote from: OakdaleFTL on
Of course, what's going on in Venezuela and Brazil is the result of capitalism and U.S. interference… Russia, Iran and Cuba had nothing to do with what happened! :)
Well, by that standard also US is Communist. At least Iran and Cuba became what they have become as a result of direct US meddling. Stop being the world's biggest Commie!

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Reply #870 –
Ypu can't stop being what you are, ersi! But since you don't participate in politics, you are — what? Given a free pass? Then, shut up!
You're an amazingly ignorant consumer of news…
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Reply #871 –
Quote from: OakdaleFTL on
But since you don't participate in politics, you are -- what?
Don't I? I merely don't vote. You apparently think that's the only way to participate in politics. Okay, stay as you are then.

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Reply #872 –
Quote from: jax on
An EU bordering Brazil, Morocco, Iran, and North Korea isn't likely to happen soon, but eventually...
Yeah, expand until internal wars become an inevitability again. Thank you very much. Yours is precisely the kind of thinking that fails to identify what belongs inside and what outside.

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Reply #873 –
Quote from: jax on
I don't think Russia joining the EU is on the cards quite yet.
That oportunity was thrown out the window because of the vanity of European leaders and the justified fear of the USA to lose conrol over Europe.

Quote from: jax on
Putin wouldn't want it, ...
Not anymore. Alea iacta est.
Even so Putin as his predecessors (of European and not Asian origin btw) hoped for a place in the European community.
That was a naive dream and they got cured.
The Sino-Russian alliance was the only option Putin was left with and this alliance could render Europe to insignificance in a few decades.
 

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Reply #874 –
Russia in the EU, or the US in the EU, has never seriously been proposed. The complexities and impact of Russia in the EU would be staggering (though it would mean an EU bordering Korea and the US).

Gorbachev did propose that the Soviet Union could become a NATO member, a far easier proposition.