Re: Warehouse Labor Practices Reply #25 – 2013-12-26, 16:58:26 Quote from: Macallan on 2013-12-26, 15:11:08Quote from: Belfrager on 2013-12-26, 13:08:23By the capacity of functioning together into gigantic networks, that generates information that people believes to be accurate and right, computers limits people's lives and freedom much more than any army.Computers don't generate any of it. They just keep it around and make it available.No? computers don't generates information? what do you call to the result of billions of queries that operates, not over you -the real person, but over an ID number that represents you over all those databases?It's exactly based on the result of such operations that people's life it's restricted, everyday, at all areas.Communications.Most companies and jobs.Taxes.Banking.Assurances.Health.Surveillance and Repression.Aviation.Car circulation.Television and press.Army and Police.All that runs 24/24 based at information generated by computers.Many of those systems are directly feed by information captured, also directly, by machines.You have no money independence, no privacy independence, no information independence, no freedom to move, no freedom to communicate. Everything you do it's being registered and queried under some criteria. Results applies to you.If this is not oppression, I don't know what oppression is about.
Re: Warehouse Labor Practices Reply #26 – 2013-12-27, 01:23:34 Quote from: Belfrager on 2013-12-26, 16:58:26Quote from: Macallan on 2013-12-26, 15:11:08Quote from: Belfrager on 2013-12-26, 13:08:23By the capacity of functioning together into gigantic networks, that generates information that people believes to be accurate and right, computers limits people's lives and freedom much more than any army.Computers don't generate any of it. They just keep it around and make it available.No? computers don't generates information? what do you call to the result of billions of queries that operates, not over you -the real person, but over an ID number that represents you over all those databases?All the computers do there is cataloging and indexing. They don't write the crap.
Re: Warehouse Labor Practices Reply #27 – 2013-12-27, 08:58:58 Quote from: Macallan on 2013-12-27, 01:23:34Quote from: Belfrager on 2013-12-26, 16:58:26Quote from: Macallan on 2013-12-26, 15:11:08Quote from: Belfrager on 2013-12-26, 13:08:23By the capacity of functioning together into gigantic networks, that generates information that people believes to be accurate and right, computers limits people's lives and freedom much more than any army.Computers don't generate any of it. They just keep it around and make it available.No? computers don't generates information? what do you call to the result of billions of queries that operates, not over you -the real person, but over an ID number that represents you over all those databases?All the computers do there is cataloging and indexing. They don't write the crap.Yes... just as televisions don't show images, just a bunch of little flashing dots.
Re: Warehouse Labor Practices Reply #28 – 2013-12-28, 01:14:51 Quote from: Belfrager on 2013-12-27, 08:58:58Quote from: Macallan on 2013-12-27, 01:23:34All the computers do there is cataloging and indexing. They don't write the crap.Yes... just as televisions don't show images, just a bunch of little flashing dots.So your tv set makes its own shows now?
Re: Warehouse Labor Practices Reply #29 – 2013-12-28, 09:21:32 Quote from: Macallan on 2013-12-28, 01:14:51So your tv set makes its own shows now?My tv set, a state of the art Sony Black Trinitron, probably older than you, has been disconnected for many years ago. I see no utility in a machine that, following your reasoning, just blinks little dots and does nothing more. For that, I prefer to look to the stars...It's not surprising how IT related people always tries to relativize machine's role into mankind oppression. Exactly the same way gun defenders arguments, computers don't harm, people using them do. How innocent, misunderstood poor computers... (only programmers are even more innocent, of course...)What next? the constitutional right to be a number inside a computer?The only good computer is the switched off computer.