Re: Tripe about Ukraine
Reply #661 –
The situation has got worse as I said it might.
The utter hypocrisy and arrogance being given out by that White House lady who does the comments to journalists is unbelievable. I also seen a news item where a Senator asked the Deputy US minister who does foreign affairs if it was true that the Kiev coup lot had a sprinkling of neo-Nazis and she almost squirmed and would not give a proper answer. He also mentioned why she could go on about the peaceful protests in Kiev's mainsquare when we seen policemen get showered with fire and worse.What is also farcical is that Kiev is going bananas on "terrorists" in the eastern half of the country. Can we remind that it was terrorists who stole the democratic process in Kiev and shot dozens.
Not satisifed with the lies from Kiev the "leader"of the "Free West" keeps condemning Russia. This is another insult to intelligence as the Russian Foreign Minister campaigned about having no violence in Ukraine from anyone. President Putin also stated he had no plan to dismember Ukraine and felt that a federal system should be the direction. Instead what we got was a rogue government in Kiev mounting a vicious attack on the east using both the army and the National Guard. This included shooting people going to the referendum. It was the neo-Nazis who attacked the Union building burning people and beating to death those who jumped from the windows. The White House woman said it was unfortunate that people had been killed recently. You can bet if the shoe was on the other foot she would have been bellowing more lies. Again, Russia had strongly urged protestors in the east to avoid a referendum but the West ignored that too. Seems to me that it doesn't matter what Russia does the West has it's own agenda. Now Russia is condemned for stopping gas supplies as they are not getting paid. The US answer was that such a move was ridculous using things to lean on people! Because it uses doubtful tactics it thinks weirdly.
As for the referendums held in two areas (against remember, Putin's wishes) it was okay and of course "perfectly legal£ for the West to immediately accepted the referendum in Kosovo to break from the State of Serbia because it suited. In the last 10 years the US has extended NATO closer and closer to the Russian border. Noises are being made about protecting member States. Eh? No-one has threatened any member of NATO and the latest exercises were in a Baltic State right next the border with Russia! Like all trouble spots the US likes to want to create or use money is involved and it has investments in Ukraine. Now US warships at the Black Sea.
Kiev has no interest in a deal with the east of the country and that is even more stupid considering that is where the best bit of their economy is. Those in the east are angry becaue the democratic process was stolen from them and they were not involved nor asked. It is the old story that democracy is fine in the West as long as the government voted in is in the corner wanted. Indeed I remember when Ireland made a negative referendum. on an EEC situation and encouraged to have another. Austria had a government in modern times that wasn't liked to equally encouraged by Europe to have another election.
This mess has been created by the West supporting an illegal coup and shutting a blind eye to the Nazi involvement because it is all part of the world imperial dominance stance. The West has a lot of blame and now Ukraine will fall apart due to the fact that the coup was not universal. To call the eastern Ukrainians terrorists is so beyond the sense level. Not consulted, ignored in the coup led by the Right Sector and their Nazi associates makes them the bad guys??