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102
Otter Browser Forum / Re: Otter advantages over Vivaldi
Fifth = failure, only Linux supported
Vivaldi = failure, chromium browser

I can't even believe someone on Vivaldi forum topic above wrote
Quote
If Vivaldi matures, we don't need Otter

hello ? - any - ANY chromium based browser is resource hog !
they use plugins, and every plugin acts as new Browser Process that eats
equal amount of Memory

what kind of idiot found to compare that shit with Otter which is extra lightweight

somehow people (read kids) don't even know what Browser is and what backend Engine is
its all same to them
well shit lets all buy 16 gigs of RAM and 16 core CPU and be happy .... pfff
103
Otter Browser Forum / nasty JS bug
this bug needed separate topic, as Emdek wanted it like that so others can comment and suggest fixes

the bug or a flaw is caused by simple title-bar-content refresh
what it does is, constant reading-writing to hard-disk and choking of Otter in performance
mind you, I only tested this on my "windows 7" (32bit)

code in question is this:

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<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
	var txt="stupid rotating title - IT ROTATES AND CHOKES OTTER";
	var wait=200;
	var refresh=null;
	function rotate_title() {
	document.title=txt;
	txt=txt.substring(1,txt.length)+txt.charAt(0);
	refresh=setTimeout("rotate_title()",wait);}
	rotate_title();
</script>


here is plain example within clean HTML file if you want to try:

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
	var txt="stupid rotating title - IT ROTATES AND CHOKES OTTER";
	var wait=200;
	var refresh=null;
	function rotate_title() {
	document.title=txt;
	txt=txt.substring(1,txt.length)+txt.charAt(0);
	refresh=setTimeout("rotate_title()",wait);}
	rotate_title();
</script>
</head>
<body>
</body>
</html>




104
Otter Browser Forum / Re: Feature Requests
here is small request by me
although dunno if it was already asked

Otter can do "inspect element" on webpage and launch its editor
but would be nice if it could just like old Opera to have View Page Source
in plain text (without fancy object colapsing) - as it simply shows better preview :P
105
Otter Browser Forum / Re: bugs
Emdek, any youtube video, any flash embeded video on shitty facebook or any other site

yes 32bit version on 32bit windows
106
Otter Browser Forum / Re: bugs
Quote from: Emdek on

@exley, this one?
https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-44401


no :(
any flash plugin that, at least I activate (movie clip), starts to play
but can't use any of embedded controls
pause, scene/duration bar, sound toggle, screen size toggle...
nothing can be "used" as Otter still registers it as "just clicked on plugin" and it only pauses
the clip, also on some sites, the plugin won't even activate at all (and yes they are flash too)
109
Otter Browser Forum / Re: bugs
this forum is either bugged or I don't have priviledges to send PM's to Emdek...
in any case Emdek if you recieved my PM please confirm it as I don't see report under "sent messages"
111
Otter Browser Forum / Re: Otter advantages over Vivaldi
any sane programmer starts with making stable and optimized foundation
then goes after new features, otherwise you end up with buggy unresponsive app
with bunch of things stuffed in that simply crash and burn

I'd say otter is on right path

also check what happened in past with Mac OS "Copland"
and with MS Windows "Longhorn"

they both suffered with feature creep and crap foundation
113
Otter Browser Forum / Re: bugs
I must say I'm getting bigger and bigger smile with each new weekly release !  :up:  :D
love the Otter ! oh and thank you very much for doing it :D (I'll still report here if I find something wrong - hope you don't mind)
114
Otter Browser Forum / Re: bugs
I know nothing of programming :D
but by logic, if you can make it "read"/detect extensions (no matter what file type)
then that should work, since obviously this auto detect via windows OS doesn't work
115
Otter Browser Forum / Re: bugs
well, I don't want to seem like a-hole, since i love what youre doing for all of "us" here
but I think its on either qt or dev side-problem

if you do any save via link of no matter what file
or simple rclick save for any image, with ordinary opera (11/12)
in save dialog - the extension will still be not given after file name
but below on "drop down control", it will say "Archive/zip file" or "Image/PNG file" or "Video/MP4 file"
and thus it is reckognised and saved properly while Otter only provides "All files"
and therefore user always gets non-extensioned file saved
116
Otter Browser Forum / Re: bugs
for #1 its ok just wanted to point it out :P

for #2, its not about hiding extension but if you hit "save", you get just saved "file" with no extension, dunno if this is QT problem itself or qtwebkit but should behave differently

for #3 thanks :D
117
Otter Browser Forum / Re: bugs
heres another more of a quirk than bug report, for latest release
when you have bunch of tabs opened the X button gets centered
thus hard to click on tabs... like so:

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ebqvcl.png

also last release again has problem with saving images (dialog)
if you do again rclick on image it offers "save as all files"
user has to manually put in .jpg or whatever ... extension

++ a question, how do we disable mouse commands (rclick drag actions) ?
118
Otter Browser Forum / Re: "Should I stay or should I go?"
well here's cookie from me for what is worth

why I chose Otter:

1. it is so lightweight !!!
2. it is ONLY stable browser based on QTwebkit out there, every other crashes to me
3. going for opera UI and features are only huge +

in my main point (1) this is where Vivaldi and current Opera fails
119
Otter Browser Forum / Re: "Should I stay or should I go?"
can't believe this is even for debate

their browser is just another copy of any other webkit crap
its a resource hog ... and that forced winblows 8 flat UI is just disaster

Otter is already great, we just need some fixes from QT side
121
Otter Browser Forum / Re: Evolution of icon
no disrespect, but otter's icon is ... bad :P
dunno how much its against the "law" to use it, but Opera 10-12 had nice alpha/next icon




122
Otter Browser Forum / Re: question + 1 bug
did you try to zoom out to small percentage ?

@Emdek
I noticed another bug with Otter, now beta4, for instance if you go to imagebam.com
to upload multi images, when Open dialog appears, user can only select 1 file,
while for instance in old Opera 11 you can do multiple files, I don't think QT uses
win32 default open/save dialog at all, as there is still also issues with saving images
123
Otter Browser Forum / Re: question + 1 bug
hahah I think I found what is the problem with facebook live chat
it is so stupid... and it is infact webkit engine side problem

since all your friends apear on right side in a list, dunno if its TABLE or DIV object
but
if your page zoom is so high, that that html object "gets out" of your screen, it will show
"chat disconnected" and you lose your list/object from right side
but
if you zoom OUT to such % that object "fits back" into screen, you will be presented back
with friend list and chat will work :P

my screen resolution is 1600x900,
it triggers the bug when zoom is at 127% (and above)
but works with 125% and less
124
Otter Browser Forum / Re: Questions to the Developer
here's 1 from me / universal question
I love the fact that Otter is light, but problem was when I wanted to use it on old PC
which CPU isn't SSE2 supportive, and every QTWebKit based browser crashes on such PC

so my question is, is there any plan to compile it for such CPU's or never ?
125
Otter Browser Forum / Re: question + 1 bug
bug with facebook "live chat" still remains with #50
the zoom one got fixed -> nice !!!

also i noticed 2 more simple bugs, dunno if they existed before

1.if you do right click on image and do "open image", you get new tab opened with blank page
2. if you rclick -> save image, you get dialog for save, but no extension is ever saved, nor
does dialog offer one, nor one is assigned at the end of file name
(tested for both JPG and PNG)

at least this is on portable #50 the issues