Re: "Proportional" reprentation
Reply #27 –
Shouldn't Europe have a proportion of Communists, Fascists, Crypto-capitalists, and (add any other -ists you'd like!) rule over them?
(They actually have: It's called the EU…)
If there are no principles worth fighting for, there is only what Frenzie call the "circular argument." The other side -the one I'm against- says exactly that: There are no principles!
When you focus upon "the process." chances are pretty good that you know — you've already lost the argument. But you may continue winning battles…
Hell, you might win the war!
How does that work out in the real world? Unfortunately, as Keynes quipped: "In the long run, we are all dead."
How many people with children feel that way? It's hard to say, considering the many who'd turn their children into bombs, and thence hamburger…
You choose your principles; and you -at great peril- ignore the plain principles of others.
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Again, I ask: What is the purpose of government… What do we want?
I doubt the answers to those two questions will be very enlightening. Most of the modern world (that would be Europe, BTW? ) has rejected such…, principles, that is. And, so, should be perfectly okay with the Trump presidency: He's their "kinda guy"! (The Art of the Deal, and all that silliness… Didn't it used to be called "Real Politik"?)
In a sense, I see what people who want proportional representation want: A calm, peaceful world; where no one is treated un-fairly.
I'm not opposed to that.
I just see (know…) that that's not how the world works.
And I would like someone to explain to me how "tribal," or racial or ethnic -or even ideological groups - make, when they're given priority- the polity better and the government they support — something other than a "spoils system"…
(And, so, we're back to Frenzie's "circularity". I wish I had the answer… But I can only claim certain principles that I deem paramount. See America's Declaration of Independence and said country's Constitution.)
And, ersi, look up the various dictionary meanings of the word "principle"… Then go out to a bar, get drunk; get into an argument… It'd probably do you good, even if you lost the fight. You've a lot to learn yet.