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Browsers & Technology / Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
Opera ASA is the high-uppest corporate gold sponsor of Linux Mint http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2472

Now, allegedly Chropera for Linux will be released in March or so. (The official statement I quoted earlier, to take it literally, it would mean we can begin waiting for the Linux version at that time. I personally won't believe until I see it.)

Let's combine these things. I have these questions:

When/If the Linux version of Opera Blink arrives, will it be in the repositories ready to wipe out the Presto version or will it be possible to have it side-by-side with the Presto version?

Will it be sufficiently different from Chrome for anyone of us to use it? Why? (I noticed Frenzie hoping for a sensible Unix-like non-Chromish config&profile files system. I entertain no such hopes.)

Will it be in the repositories at all? I know Chrome is not in the repositories, even though it has packages to suit all the base distros. Then again, Chromium is available and Opera ASA is a gold sponsor of the Linux distro that has been #1 for a year or more on Distrowatch, so...

Place your bets, gentlemen.
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Browsers & Technology / Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2013/11/opera-18-landed/#comment-1132645881
Quote from: Daniel Aleksandersen
Do not expect [the Linux version] for another three months at the earliest.
Meaning, in February or March the Linux version of Chropera might land on us. Does it really take so long for the company to get out of desktop browser business that they even dare to promise a Linux version? Well, I guess the credit they earned under Tetzchner is not so easily wasted after all.
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Browsers & Technology / Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
On the subject of Opera itself, or rather Chopera, I've heard criticisms of it although nothing too specific except the Bookmark business (which is a killer for me) but I'd like to have a look.

The criticism is of two kinds. One kind is missing features: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1768972

The other kind of criticism is Chrome-ness. All the criticism that applies to Chrome also applies to Chropera.

Both kinds of criticism have been very specific on the My Opera forums, but of course, go ahead and install it so you can see for yourself. However, if Chrome or Chromium is not for you, then chances are neither is Chropera.
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Browsers & Technology / Re: Keeping an eye on Opera
Here's a thread that followed Opera development news http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=1767272 but unfortunately it seems to have ended on my hopeful note that it would not end :)
Is there some continuation of this thread on the other side, on the new forums behind Disqus? Is there a new forums yet? Does anyone know of a similar active thread? Is anyone following the dev blogs, changelogs and user comments on the other side?

As to reasons for using Opera, I used it precisely for the email client first and foremost. I valued the interface of Pegasus, but it mangled with encodings. I also liked Eudora and I have tried a long list of other email clients, but eventually Opera 6 won me over with the inbuilt browser and a growing number of other features, while remaining lightweight on system resources.

Now when migrating away, the email client has been the most difficult component to replace. In the end I believe I used everything in Opera. I used it as it was - an internet suite. A tough loss. Migration from it is very difficult.
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Browsers & Technology / Re: Australis moved on from Fx experimental GUI to regular nightlies
So in all this Australis hype they forgot the principle of conforming to desktop look and feel with GUI? Or at least trying/pretending to? Sad story that Chrome started.

To me it makes quite a difference what GUI looks like. With this forced stick-out-like-a-sore-thumb trend it looks like I have to migrate entirely to shell and never return.

BTW, can the mods see the user-agent strings here? Of course they can, silly question. Will you put up some stats in a while too?